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Sgt Grit American Courage Newsletter #17

"'Exit strategy' applies only to wars of choice. You can choose to quit Vietnam or Somalia or Kosovo. The war on radical Islam is a war of necessity. Wars of necessity have no exit. They must be won. What possible exit strategy can you have against an enemy whose ordinary soldier signs up with the following oath (found among the documents captured from al Qaeda in Afghanistan): 'I state in the presence of God that I will slaughter infidels for my entire life'? There is only one exit strategy in fighting such a man. He dies or you die. No other exit." --Charles Krauthammer


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Sgt. Grit,
While going through some of the stuff I've held onto for years I found an old clipping from IIIMAF's (Third Marine Amphibious Force, Vietnam) newspaper, the _Sea Tiger_, dated 8 December 1967.  It is an editorial without a credit:  --Tom Downey, once a captain, USMCR -- always a Marine
(1963 - '76; Vietnam: Dec'66-Dec'67)

A Letter From Vietnam
"The following letter was written by a young Marine in Vietnam to his parents.  "--Just imagine, most of the guys over here are 18 fighting to make it to 19.  The average age of the combat soldier in many units here is 18½.  And what a man he is.  A pink-cheeked tousled haired, tight muscled fellow who under normal circumstances would be considered by society as half-man, half-boy, not yet dry behind the ears and a pain in the unemployment chart.  "But here and now he is the beardless hope of free men.  He is, for the most part, unmarried and without material possessions except possibly for an old car at home and a transistor radio here.  He listens to rock 'n roll--and 105 millimeter howitzers.  "He just got out of high school, received so-so grades, played a little football and had a girl who promised to be true.  "He has learned to drink beer because it is cold and 'is the thing to do.'  He is a private first class, a one-year military veteran with one or possibly three years to go.  "He never cared for work, preferred waxing his own car to washing his father's but he is now working or fighting from dawn to dark, often longer.  "He still has trouble spelling, and writing letters home is a painful process.  But he can break down his rifle in 30 seconds and put it back together in 29.  He can describe the nomenclature of a fragmentation grenade, explain how a machine gun operates, and use either if the need arises.  "He can dig a fox hole, apply first aid to a wounded companion, march until he is told to stop, or stop until he is told to march.  He has seen more suffering than he should have in his short life.  He has stood among hills of bodies, and he has helped to build those hills.  He has wept in private and in public and has not been ashamed at doing either, because his pals have fallen in battle and he has come close to joining them.  "He has become self-sufficient.  He has two pair of fatigues, washes one and wears the other.  He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but not his rifle.  He keeps his socks dry and his canteen full.  "He can cook his own meals, fix his own hurts and mend his own rips--material or mental.  He will share his water with you if you thirst, break his rations in half if you hunger, and split his ammunition if you are fighting for your life.  "He can do the work of two civilians, draw half the pay of one and find ironic humor in it all.  He has learned to use his hands as a weapon and his weapons as his hands.  He can save a life or most assuredly take one.  "He is now 19, a veteran, and fighting to make 20. . ."
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Sgt. Grit,
    I'm writing in response to the letter which appeared in the last newsletter from the "wife of a fallen Marine." I'd like to tell the wife of Cpl. Benjamin Worchel, as well as the Hudson and Penneti families that America sends its condolences and prayers to them. We truly appreciate the sacrifices which all three of those families have made for the security and safety of the United States of America. America is blessed to have men such as your husband and his brothers-in-arms defending us today. You said in your letter that you were PROUD of your husband, Mrs. Worchel...well rest assured that America is PROUD of him as well, just as we are of those who fell with him. May God Bless all of you and keep you as you struggle through difficult days ahead, but always remember your beloved Marines and keep their memories alive! They are this generation of Americans' heroes and we will never forget them!  Semper Fidelis, David Bounds
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I can certainly agree with the person who reflected on
MacArthur and his statement about looking at him with
thoughtful study. Certainly, he was liked by the personages of Gen. Almond, head of the 10 corp., and Gen. Willoughby, his G-2, both yes men. Some of the dislikes, if someone would ask them, would come from the guys in the 8th Army, namely the 2nd and 7th
divisions, as it was by his orders that they get to the Yalu. No one can forget, the published picture showing two men manning a Light 30 machine gun overlooking the Yalu.  But no pictures show them on their way south when the opposition hit in full force.The presence of the Chinese was know in early OCTOBER. Willoughby was aware of them, in fact, Almond told him about the Marines who had about 200 of them in a stockade.  His reply, "that's just another one of the Marines damn lies".  Almond escorted him out of
the tent and passed the stockade. The G-2 got into his
helicopter and never once made a comment on what he
saw.  Both, in my estimation, under Mac., were also in
his pocket.  They didn't say anything that he didn't
want to hear.  Also, about some people not liking Chesty is correct.  If it hadn't been for Korea, he would have had to
retire as a full-bird.  But when the fighting starts,
then and only then, will people like Chesty be needed
and shine. The people who disliked him, did so from a
position, behind his back as his regimental CP was
usually as close to the front as he could get,
sometimes in the battalion area. The desk jockeys and
their likes were the ones who didn't care for him and
some line officers as Chesty usually got the publicity
that others couldn't buy. We were on a road, to reach
a hill before the gooks did and were in a forced
march, 55 on and 5 off. After the third hour, we
saddled up, started off and about two hundred yards
ahead was a curve to the right, as we rounded that
curve, who did we see, Brigadier General Puller, and
his driver. No one else.  That's the reason to this
day that the grunts more than liked him, cause he was
there and didn't try to direct a war, way in the rear
or behind a desk. Plus, personally, He was the one,
who said "if they are old enough to fight, there old
enough to drink beer".  Caused quite a stir in the
states with the temperance league. But he always spoke
what he thought.  Norm Callahan ll08487
C l-l.
Chestys last regimental command
'51 - '52.
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I have always heard that it is "Bug Out Doug" not dug out doug...Darrell...
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We have therefore to resolve to conquer or die: Our won Country's Honor, all call upon us for vigorous and manly exertion, and if we now shamefully fail, we shall become infamous to the whole world. Let us therefore rely upon thee goodness of the Cause, and the aid of the supreme Being, in whose hands Victory is, to animate and encourage us to great and noble Actions.
Washington, George General Orders, July 2, 1776
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As a Marine stationed Beirut, it moves me to see that the Marines who died doing there jobs are remembered......albeit in the form of victims of terrorism.....these MEN died in a just cause that not every man or woman can see......that is, when tyranny is the rule, MEN stand to create order.....when oppression and  subjectivacation rule,MEN stand to create liberty.....

The fate of John walker is simple.  He chose to defend and align himself (and pick up arms) with a"religious movement" that stood against the United States.  he is not an American anymore in my eyes. To me, he is just another soldier of the enemy who has declared war on the united states..he did not perform an act of terrorism against the US....he picked up a weapon and crawled in the trenches and performed the duties of a foot soldier against the US......Ship him back to "insert country name here"  and let him deal with the fact he is no longer a US citizen...I am sure he needs the US now way more than we need
him......
Duane
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Dear Sgt Grit,
I just want to thank all the service men and women who are serving our country and who have served.  I am not from a military family, but both my grandfathers served in WWII.  I still call my grandpa (Navy) on every Memorial Day and Veteran's Day to thank him for his service.  He seem surprised, but it is people like him that allowed me to have freedom today.  I am married to a former Marine (Desert Storm).  He served in the Des Moines Police Dept for two years and was injured on duty and is now disabled.  His mind is as sharp as ever even if his body doesn't
work like it used to.  I know if he was able, he would reenlist!

Our seven year old son is SO proud singing all three verses of the Marine Corp Hymn to his dad.  I know my husband is still a Marine at heart.

Again thanks from a woman who knows almost nothing about the "real" military life.   Sharon Olson, wife of Steve Olson "Super Jimmy" Staff Sgt '81-91 USMC
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In  reply to letter from Paul McKenna, about Rick Rescorla, it was my distinct honor to sign the petition, One can only hope to know such a person in their lifetime. He sits with God. Respectfully,C.E.Berry,Cpl.
USMC 1949-53.,Korea Veteran.
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There is one point to add to the question of John Walker (aka Jihad Johnny, Johnny Bin Walker, et al), which refers to where the slippery slope of "forgiveness" began, with none other than Jimmy Carter, who pardoned the Viet Nam Draft Evaders as his first act of presidency of the USA.    Where was that in his campaign promises? - Answer - NOWHERE!  Follow that to Billy Clinton, documented as one of those that benefited from Jimmy's pardon of traitors to the USA, who promptly enacted the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy in the armed forces, further demoralizing the military structure and discipline....   Gaw'd'Almitghty'Damn, aren't we educated about these people yet??????  Semper Fi, Cpl. Robert Saurer - 2191564 (couldn't forget that number if I tried, the "ringing" in my ear is still real after 35 years.)
Robert C. Saurer
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Sgt. Grit,
Did you happen to read the article in the Marine Corps Times about the cost to produce the Medal Of Honor? $30.00. The civilian equivalent cost $30,000.00  90% gold.Is civilian blood & bravery worth more? I think not. Semper Fi.
Dave Chandler Sgt.U.S.M.C.Ret.1960-70
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Hepatitis C Among Veterans

Hepatitis C has particular importance for the Department of Veteran Affairs (VA) because of its prevalence in VA's service population .  Recent studies indicate that one in every 10 US veterans is infected with HCV, a rate five times greater than the 1.8 % infection rate of the general population.

Since mid - 1998, Hepatitis C has been identified as the single most important emerging pathogen in the VA healthcare system with an estimated HCV prevalence range between 10 to 20 percent in patients currently treated by the VA. It is likely that as many as 280,000 - 350,000 veterans are HCV seropositive. HCV accounts for nearly 55% of liver transplantations performed in the VA (Kiser, 1998:1).  Today, the VA is treating over 80,000 veterans with Hepatitis C.

On March 17,1999, the Department of Veteran Affairs (VA) conducted a nationwide surveillance activity and tested over 26,000 veterans for Hepatitis C. The testing revealed a point prevalence rate of 6.6% with a wide variation by geography and era of military service (VHA Directive 2001-009). Data compiled from the nationwide screening studies revealed that there is an ethnic distribution among veterans who tested positive for HCV: 27% were African-American, 6% Hispanic, 42% white, and 25% unknown. Sixty percent of veterans with HVC infection were 45-60 years of age. The age distribution for HCV-infected
veterans was found to be: 40-44 years (23%), 45-49 years (32%), and 50-54 (18%).  In addition, greater than 95% of those who were positive for HCV were male and 9% were homeless.

The majority of HCV- infected veterans were from the Vietnam War era (63%), with the minority being from other periods: post-Vietnam (19%), Korean War (5%), post Korean War (4%), WWII  (4%), and other (5%).

In its continuing efforts to provide care to more than 80,000 veterans infected with hepatitis C, the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) on Jan. 1, 2002, funded four new centers to evaluate and improve hepatitis C screening, test, clinical care and education. Each of the centers will receive annual funding of up to $500,000 for five years, plus start-up costs. The centers are located at Minneapolis, San Francisco, West Haven, Conn., and Seattle, in conjunction with the Portland, Ore.  VA medical center.  Hepatitis Screening is available throughout the VA system.
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Dear Sgt. Grit,
   I was just reading the American Courage Newsletter #15 and came across Cpl Garner's letter. I just had to respond to the sentiments of this American hero.  Cpl Garner, Let me begin by stating that I agree with everything you had to say in  your letter. I, too, am sick of all the bleeding hearts and their "concern" over the treatment of those low-lifes at Gitmo. Your letter really struck a cord with me. If those who complain would only stop to think about what these type of people do (and have done) to the citizens and military personnel of our nation, MAYBE they would come to their senses, but I doubt it! However, that isn't the primary reason that I write to you, sir.  I'd like to thank you for your service to our great land. I am a U.S. History teacher in Oklahoma, and I must confess that I have never taught my students about the Beirut massacre. That's usually because we've never reached the 1980s in our studies. However, I want to assure you that from now on, I will MAKE SURE that my classes are made aware of that action and of the brave men who gave their lives and limbs there.  We, who you so bravely defended, owe you and your "Beirut brothers" that much! (Actually, we owe you much more.) So please rest assured that at least in one school district in this land, your story will be told.  I was never in the Corps, but my brother and brother-in-law were. Both spent quite a bit of time in North Carolina as Marines. During one of my visits to that state, my brother-in-law took me to the Beirut Memorial in
Jacksonville...just outside of Camp Lejuene. I still have photographs of it and will have them enlarged for a display in my classroom. That will be there on a permanent basis, along with my Vietnam Memorial display.  I'd also like to say that you DID NOT sound as though you were whining about a lack of recognition, sir. You were merely stating facts, and I for one, am grateful. THANK YOU, CPL GARNER, FOR YOUR SACRIFICE!!! THANK YOU
FOR YOUR SERVICE!!! THANK YOU FOR STANDING ON GUARD TO PROTECT ME & MY FAMILY FROM ALL OF THOSE LIKE THE A**HOLES AT GITMO! AND PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO PASS THESE SENTIMENTS ALONG TO ANY OF YOUR BEIRUT BRETHREN!!! We, who are patriotic Americans will remember you and your sacrifices!! And please, don't retreat back to your own little world. Continue to tell your story and to help people like me tell it, as well

Sincerely,
David Bounds
School Teacher
Little Axe HS
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My confidence is that there will for a long time be virtue and good sense enough in our countrymen to correct abuses.
Jefferson, Thomas letter to Edward Rutledge, 1788
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Jan,
I know its a small thing but if you happen to be talking to Joe Galloway, please remind him that the battle in the Ia Drang was not "the first major land battle of the Vietnam War waged between U.S. troops and the NVA/PAVN (The People's Army of Vietnam); the Viet Cong" as reported in several news releases.  The 9th Marines kicked off Operation Starlite in March '65 killing several hundred of the bad guys several months before the 7th Cav got into action further south.  And, it should be known it was the 9th
Marines who were in the final action of the Vietnam War - the Mayaguez rescue.  Thanks and looking forward to Memorial Day,
James Gregory
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Sgt Grit,
As a Sgt in the United States Marine Corps I would like to remind all of those defending McArthur that he was one of the SOBs trying to get rid of the Marine Corps.  How can you possibly defend a man who made it appoint to destroy everything that we as Marines have fought so hard to uphold?
Sgt Saldana
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Gonna shoot my mouth off about a couple of things
in this newsletter.  Several references have been
made to Bobby Garwood of Viet Nam fame. Garwood was
a POW who, granted, is lower than a sewer rat, never took up arms against the U.S.  There's the difference. Garwood the POW, John Walker the combatant of his own free will.  Both disgraces to their country but not of the same mold.  Another reference was made about "Pappy" Boyington and those who flew with the "Flying Tigers"  They did not join a foreign army they were civilians under contract with General Chenault.  In other words...mercenaries.  Americans have always volunteered for foreign units like the AFV or the Abraham Lincoln Brigade but always with American interests at heart and ALWAYS against our enemies, or totalitarian regimes.  Respect John Walker as a "fighting man"? Maybe, if he was one. You will notice how fast he shaved his beard and hair and became an "Its not my fault" whiner in court. He cannot even stand up for his so called "convictions". Else, he would still be fighting. Hell, even the Taliban at Gitmo went on a hunger strike to be allowed to grow their beards back.  Not John, A fighting man he isn't! John Walker was and is a coward who carried a rifle because it gave him power over innocent people. Just as Garwood collaborated because it gave him power over other POW's and made his own life easier in captivity.

Many Americans will continue to serve in other military units, but, if the time comes to point their weapons at other Americans they will walk away.  I will respect them.
Keep the Faith.
Semper Fi
Gunny Dunc
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>From earlier newsletter:
       << Ken Happerle is no longer a Marine in MY book!! >>

The Constitution we defend says Brenda can keep her own book just like some lousy politician...but in MY book, until The Commandant issues an order to the contrary, anyone who earned the title of Marine stays a Marine!

We may not like them but we stand by our own.
Semper Fi!
Tim Hermsen, U. S. Marine
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The hour is fast approaching, on which the Honor and Success of this army, and the safety of our bleeding Country depend. Remember officers and Soldiers, that you are Freemen, fighting for the blessings of Liberty - that slavery will be your portion, and that of your posterity, if you do not acquit yourselves like men.
Washington, George General Orders
August 23, 1776
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That was a great letter by CPL. Dale Garner USMC 80/84 concerning the Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon. I have always felt that Pres. Reagan let them down by not making somebody pay for that disasster.  They knew IRAN was behind that bombing and did nothing.  I guess their oil was more important then our Marines. I wonder if the families of the 241 Marines got $1.8 Million to help them cope, or the 169 families who lost loved ones in OKL. City or the thousands who died on IWO JIMA. I guess they did get their statue.  I have a small one on my shelf.  If Teddy Roosevelt had been in office, I guarantee you somebody would have paid for that terrorist act. Teheran would be an ex capital of Iran.  CPL. Garner, you have my thanks and respect for doing your duty. I don't think you can expect much from our Senators and Congressmen because most of them are not Veterans.
SGT. Dan Powell 1330210 USMC Korean Vet. 52/55
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The eyes of the world being thus on our Country, it is put the more on its good behavior, and under the greater obligation also, to do justice to the Tree of Liberty by an exhibition of the fine fruits we gather from it.  Madison, James letter to James Monroe, December 16, 1824
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Subject: General Hawley says:
Since the attack, I have seen, heard, and read thoughts of such surpassing stupidity that they must be addressed. You've heard them too. Here they are:  1) "We're not good, they're not evil, everything is relative."  Listen carefully: We're good, they're evil, nothing is relative. Say it with me now and free yourselves. You see, folks, saying "We're good" doesn't mean "We're perfect." Okay? The only perfect being is the bearded guy on the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. The plain fact is that our country has, with all our mistakes and blunders, always been and always
will be, the greatest beacon of freedom, charity, opportunity, and affection in history.  If you need proof, open all the borders on Earth and see what happens. In about half a day, the entire world would be a ghost town, and the United States would look like one giant line to see "The Producers."  2) "Violence only leads to more violence."  This one is so stupid you usually have to be the president of an Ivy League university to say it. Here's the truth, which you know in your heads and hearts already: Ineffective, unfocused violence leads to more violence.  Limp, panicky, half-measures lead to more violence.  However, complete, fully-thought-through, professional, well- executed violence never leads to more violence because, you see, afterwards, the other guys are all dead. That's right, dead. Not "on trial," not "reeducated," not "nurtured back into the bosom of love." Dead. D-E-Well, you get the idea.  3) "The CIA and the rest of our intelligence community has failed us." For 25 years we have chained our spies like dogs to a stake in the ground, and now that the house has been robbed, we yell at them for not protecting us. Starting in the late seventies, under Carter-appointee Stansfield Turner, the giant brains who get these giant ideas decided that the best way to gather international intelligence was to use spy satellites." After all," they reasoned, "you can see a license plate from 200 miles away."  This is very helpful if you've been attacked by a license plate.  Unfortunately, we were attacked by humans. Finding humans is not possible with satellites. You have to use other humans. When we bought all our satellites, we fired all our humans, and here's the really stupid part. It takes years, decades to infiltrate new humans into the worst places of the world. You can't just have a guy who looks like Gary Busey in a Spring
Break '93 sweatshirt plop himself down in a coffee shop in Kabul and say "Hiya, boys. Gee, I sure would like to meet that bin Laden fella." "Well, you can, but all you'd be doing is giving the bad guys a story they'll be telling for years.  4) "These people are poor and helpless, and that's why they're angry at us."  Uh-huh, and Jeffrey Dahmer's frozen head collection was just a desperate cry for help. The terrorists and their backers are richer than Elton John
and, ironically, a good deal less annoying. The poor helpless people, you see, are the villagers they tortured and murdered to stay in power. Mohamed Atta, one of the evil scumbags who steered those planes into the killing grounds (I'm sorry, one of the "alleged hijackers," according to CNN - they stopped using the word "terrorist," you know), is the son of a Cairo surgeon. But you knew this, too.  In the sixties and seventies, all the pinheads marching against the war were upper-middle-class college kids who grabbed any cause they could think of to get out of their final papers and spend more time drinking. At least, that was my excuse. It's the same today. Take the Anti-Global-Warming (or is it World Trade? Oh, who knows what the hell they want, demonstrators) They all charged their black outfits and plane tickets on dad's credit card before driving to the airport in their SUV's.  5) "Any profiling is racial profiling."  Who's killing us here, the Norwegians? Just days after the attack, the New York Times had an article saying dozens of extended members of the gazillionaire bin Laden family living in America were afraid of reprisals and left in a huff, never to return to studying at Harvard and using too much Drakkar. I'm crushed. I think we're all crushed. Please come back.  With a cherry on top? Why don't they just change their names, anyway? It's happened in the past. Think about it. How many Adolfs do you run into these days?  Shortly after that, I remember watching TV with my jaw on the floor as a government official actually said, "That little old grandmother from Sioux City could be carrying something." Okay, how about this: No, she couldn't. It would never be the grandmother from Sioux City. Is it even possible? What are the odds? Winning a hundred Powerball lotteries in a row? A thousand? A million?  And now a Secret Service guy has been tossed off a plane and we're all supposed to cry about it because he's an Arab? Didn't it have the tiniest bit to do with the fact that he filled out his forms incorrectly ---three times? And then left an Arab history book on his seat as he strolled off the plane? And came back? Armed? Let's please all stop singing "We Are the World" for a minute and think practically. I don't want to be sitting on the floor in the back of a plane four seconds away from hitting Mt. Rushmore and turn, grinning, to the guy next to me to say, "Well, at least we didn't offend them." SO HERE'S what I resolve for the new year:  Never to forget our murdered brothers and sisters.  Never to let the relativists get away with their immoral thinking.
After all, no matter what your daughter's political science professor says, we didn't start this.  Have you seen that bumper sticker that says, "No More Hiroshimas"? I wish I had one that says, "You First. No More Pearl Harbors."
-- Views of Gen. (USAF-Ret) Richard E. Hawley
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"I cannot conceive a rank more honorable, than that which flows from the uncorrupted choice of a brave and free people, the purest source and original fountain of all power." --George Washington
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Do not forget what all this is about.

http://www.navexpress.com/911/

www.politicsandprotest.com
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Sgt Grit,
   While reading your news letter I came across a letter from Cpl Dale Garner of feeling forgotten. I have never forgotten nor will I forget all the MARINES from Beirut. I served with 3rd Bn 9th Marines 1st Mar Div on the west coast. That October day of the bombing of Marine Barracks Beirut has affected all Marines.  I have and will always remember.  Cpl Garner you are not forgotten by me.
Jordan Taylor,L/Cpl  USMC  81 - 85   Semper Fi..........
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Sea Services Commemoration of the Korean War
On Thursday, April 11, the United States Navy, Marine Corps and Coast Guard will present an extraordinary tribute to all Korean War Veterans and their families, and a salute to those who serve in our nation's defense today. The all-day event, entitled "The Sea Services Commemoration of the Korean War" is open to the public and will honor and remember all Korean War veterans and their families and their moving example of courage, honor and commitment in the defense of freedom and our nation. The event theme is Honor and Remember Those Who Served and Support Those Who Serve Today.

For more information about the event go to this link
<http://www.lejeune.usmc.mil/korea1951/KWC_Main.htm>
or
contact the Navy-Marine Corps Commemoration Coordinator, Lt. Col. Ward Scott at
(202) 433-3085 (DSN 288-), e-mail ScottWE@hqmc.usmc.mil
<mailto:ScottWE@hqmc.usmc.mil>.
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The United States Marine Corps Vietnam Veterans Association working in conjunction with the USMC Vietnam Tankers Historical Foundation who has been authorized by the Library of Congress to act on behalf all United States Marine Corps veterans who served during the Vietnam War Era to develop a complete history of this time period.

We are in need of members to be trained as "official interviewers" for this historical endeavor. If you have an interest to be trained as an interviewer or want to be interviewed please contact the USMCVVA
National Headquarters at USMCVVA@aol.com
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Navy and Marine Corps WW II POWs May be Eligible for Back Pay

A number of Sailors and Marines who were held as prisoners of war (POW) during World War II (WW II) are authorized to receive promotion back pay under the provisions of the fiscal year 2001 Floyd D. Spence Defense Authorization Act. The act directs the Department of the Navy to pay back pay to Navy and Marine Corps personnel who were selected for promotion but not available to accept the promotion because of their internment.

Only Navy and Marine Corps POWs during WW II, Dec. 7, 1941 to Dec. 31, 1946, are eligible.  If the service member is deceased the surviving spouse is entitled to the back pay.  The amount of the back pay will be determined using the amount the member would have been paid calculated using WW II pay rates and not adjusted for inflation.

Department of the Navy will determine eligibility for back pay by researching each individual's request. This will include obtaining and reviewing the member's archived personnel and pay records.

Applications from Navy personnel should be sent to Commander John DeNicola at Bureau of Naval Personnel, Retired Activities Branch-PERS-62, 5720 Integrity Drive, Millington, TN 38055. Marine applications should be sent to Major Jeff Sokoly Headquarters, U. S. M. C., 2 Navy Annex,
RFL-F7, Washington, DC  20380-1775.

Additional information regarding the program and application procedures may be obtained by writing CDR DeNicola or calling (800) 762-8567. Maj. Sokoly can be reached at (866) 472-7139. Application information and forms are available on the internet at
<http://www.persnet.navy.mil/pers62/WWIIPOW/WWIIPOW.html>.
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It's a shame we don't have "Red Line Brigs" anymore, then maybe I would feel something for those towels in Cuba
Frank "Crash" Biddick, E 2/1  RVN 68/69
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Don't mean to bitch but I had to get this off my mind.
QUESTION-How much do families of military personnel killed in action receive from the government ? How about survivors of those killed on Sept. 11?  Answer- Victim's survivors of Sept 11 terrorism get the minimum award of $250,000 and a non-economic award for dependents of $100,000 Average awards before any deductions for life insurance, pensions and assorted government benefits will be $1.85 million. According to columnist Jimmy Breslin on March 12 in Newsday that survivors of military members who die in combat or from service-connected disabilities receive MUCH less.  Surviving spouses will get $935 per month for life if they remain unmarried. For each child add $234 per month until they are 18. There are burial and living-expense benefits to help the surviving family for only a few months. I ask you WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE.  Thanks for listening.
Semper Fi.
ROBerg USMC #1472172 (1954-1962)
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"The Constitution is not neutral. It was designed to take the government off the backs of people."
--William O. Douglas
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In today Tuscaloosa news the heading of an article reads: Austrian family retraces line to Aliceville POW camp written by Luke Connell.  Aliceville is a small town in Alabama that during World War II housed 6,000 German prisoners, Many prisoners passed time in these camps by painting, putting on theatrical productions and drinking beer- even in Pickens County, he writes.

Some of those German prisoners have returned many times to visit the people of Aliceville, Alabama because of the friendly people. Contrast this with what those of the left media are saying about how the prisoners are treated  in Cuba by us.

The German POW's are planning a large reunion in the spring at Aliceville, Alabama for the 60th anniversary of the camp.

Yes, there is something wonderful about the American people and particular those of the South. Phil Harris once would sing about "That's what I like about the South" I think he was on to something.  Doesn't everyone eat grits and gravy.
Bob Carr
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"What the country needs is dirtier fingernails and cleaner minds."  --Will Rogers
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Just wanted to reply to the Marine, Sgt. Taras Szczur who wanted to get more people involved in the Memorial Day Parades around the nation.  Two years ago we started to get involved in the parades.  The East Meadow Fire Dept, (Long Island) has a lot of veterans in its ranks.  Myself and another Marine, Keven McCauley, told all the veterans of our plan to wear our uniforms during the next Memorial Day Parade. We presented it to the Chiefs of our department, and they welcomed it with open arms.  They even had a Banner made up that said "Veterans of the Armed Forces, Members of the East Meadow Fire Dept."  Unfortunately, only the Marines (four of us) came wearing our uniforms.  It  took a lot of sweat and hard work to get back into shape so we would look like Marines.  We, as  a Fire Department have marched in the Memorial Day Parade from the day the dept. was formed, over 75 or so years ago.  We have all our Marines in uniform every year leading our Dept. We are still trying to get all the other Branches of Service to get the butt in gear and join us on this very special day.  We will not rest until we get everyone involved.  As always the MARINES lead the way.  Semper Fi!
Bob Longabardi
Cpl USMC '66-'68
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"To sit back hoping that some day, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping that he will eat you last -- but eat you he will." --Ronald Reagan
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Sgt. Grit,
The Army should have recognized this officer's penchant for ignoring his Commander-in-Chief a lot earlier. When Hoover ordered the demonstrating WWI vets to be pushed back across the Potomac, the President specifically ordered no force be used and no troops were to cross the river. Of course, McArthur lead his troops on across and destroyed the shantytown of the demonstrators, killing some vets in the process. I like to think that a Marine officer in the same situation would, first not cross the river and second, would certainly have obeyed the President. It took three more decades of McArthur's often blatant disregard for any but himself for another Pres. to fire his sorry ass. McArthur's mouth almost broke loose the dam of China's full military might which at the time, would have meant the death of far more people than were lost in the Korean War.  McArthur was not a hero, but something akin to Custer, a showman and a self-aggrandizing political wannabe.

Bill McNair
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Our oldest son just recently got promoted. At 29 Palms MAGTF Cax . On a hill in the desert. His C.O. pinned his SGT. chevrons on the old fashion way at 2300 hrs. He has a young bride, they were married 2 days before Christmas. He has stated he's good to go. He is ready to take the fight to our enemy's wherever they are. To him and his brothers in the CORPS, we pay tribute, and give honor. They and their brothers in arms, are truly the best this country has. Thank God for them, and we pray He will watch over them, and give them victory. We are all in this fight, and have to support the ones who stand on the wall of freedom in our defense.  God be with you SGT. Caleb N. Hooker, United States Marine Corps.
Love, dad and mom.
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Sgt. Grit,
       I am a baby boomer, a product of the sixties who grew up in the safety of the Midwest in the eighties before joining the US Marines.  Prior to the Marines I was a momm'a boy..., Hell I am still a momma's boy today even eight years after her death from cancer.  I had memories of the disgusting attitude of people when our troops came home from Vietnam, I remember some of the disgusting things said against my brother Marines during their time in Beirut where some of them never left alive.  They dare to criticize the manner which we fight a war?  Of course they do this from the comfort of their office, bedroom or home that we the veterans and current servicemen and women provide the curtain of freedom over.  THEY CAN KISS MY A**!  Sorry if my profanity offends anyone!  I think some of these people have to refer to the basic rule of man, first of all GOD has sent forward many mortal men to do battle with evil, our government sends out our men and women to do the same or we SHALL and WILL fall prey to anarchy.
       As far as I am concerned cowards, nor traitor's have the right to question how this country, it's Sailors, Marines, Soldiers and Airmen fight a war against other cowards or traitors.  I served with honor from 1985-1991, I proudly war the Eagle, Globe and Anchor and would proudly do it again if asked to.    I am EXTREMELY proud of our men and women who served today and I personally believe that THEY are the sole reason why terrorists have not hurt us or this country worse than they have.  GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND GOD BLESS AMERICA!  Thanks for listening,
Chief Stacey S. White
Kiefer Police Department
CPL USMC  0351/52, 1985-1991
Semper Fidelis!
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Sarge,
    Just wanted to drop another line to say hello to all my leatherneck brothers!  I also wanted to say "thanks" to Cpl. Garner!  The good corporal sounded a bit peeved and he has every right to be.  He was busted up over in Beirut and has a right to be angry!  I too am a "root" vet (a two timer as a matter of fact), but my experiences over there, while never very pleasant could not compare with his.  My unit (3/8 Lima Co. weapons Plt.) was there just before the bombing (down by the airport and the sh_t river and then up at the American University by the Damascus Highway (our Captain is the one who leapt up onto the Israeli tank) (you guys relieved us I believe) and then back again the second time after the bombing when we were manning post by the American Embassy on the Cornesh (sp). I never really put a lot of thought into what we did over there as I felt like it did not measure up any way shape or form to what our W.W.II, Korean and Viet Nam war vets went through,
not to mention the experiences of the vets from the various conflicts since Beirut.  But in the corporal's case, things were very different and so his feelings are obviously much stronger than my own.  However, I do recall the few times that I went down to the MAU headquarters by the airport (to get a shower) and was often concerned that the security  there seemed a bit relaxed.  Couple that with the fact that we were not allowed to be locked and loaded and you had the makings of a potential problem.  I cannot speak for
security when you were there, but when we heard about the bombing, we all yelled out that we knew it was just a matter of time before something like that happened.  Anyway, when I think back about our situations over there, I get just as pissed that our guard was down as I do at the cowardly bastards who perpetrate such crimes.  Hopefully we will learn from our experiences in future conflicts.  Anyway, thanks again Cpl. Garner!
Semper Fi
Cpl. Mike Kunkel
0331, 81-85
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Sarge --
I'm not sure if this is where I can comment about a writing in the newsletter or not.  I have to say something about DugOut Doug.

How the American people cried and wanted to burn Truman over the MacArthur firing.  Almost everyone wanted his ass kicked out of office.  History has a way of showing us the true picture.  It's just too damn bad that the people didn't support HST when he made the decision.  Harry was a service man!  Always a supporter of the troops.  It's nice to see that America has awakened to what a great President he was.

T. A. Askew USMC 67-71
Semper Fi
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Sarg, I guess Ike said it all when he said Gen.MacArthur was the" greatest American actor".
PJLazzaro
Sgt. USMC
53 - 57
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"It's really quite unusual to speak to our next guest. His organization, Hamas, takes credit for the killing in Netanya. He told CNN shortly after the attack just that, and even defended it promising more to come. He's the spokesperson for an organization seen by most as a terrorist group, even though he would probably prefer the term freedom fighter. We're joined by Hamas spokesman Usama Hamdan. Thank you so much for being with us, sir." --Connie Chung with a Hamas "freedom fighter"

Note: I stopped watching CNN a long, long time ago.  Sgt Grit
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Resistance to tyrants, is obedience to God.
Thomas Jefferson

A Cranmore Sgt
Former Marine
84-90   91
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In answer to Cpl. Dale Garner on Beirut vets. Every year for the past four years on the anniversary of the bombing we have a memorial ceremony at our "All Wars Memorial" in Bantam , Ct. for these men that died. This memorial was started by a Marine who was stationed there. I hope it will be some consolation to you to know that they are not forgotten. This ceremony is starting to be observed in different parts of the state and hopefully will become national. Every month we honor a deceased veteran and fly his or her flag for that month in their honor and this has become a national event by the American Legion. We have honored many who lost their lives in Beirut through the years and we are proud to do so. We strive to never forget those who sacrificed so much for what they believed in. I hope you will find some kind of release from your pain in knowing this.  Semper Fi!Sgt. Leo J. Nadeau-U. S. M. C.   1951-1954- Korea
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God Bless America
Sgt Grit


God Bless America!!
Semper fi!!
Sgt Grit

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