You want to become a Marine? I will tell if you can enter my beloved Corps!!! I don't care what you want. I will tell you what you want, when you want it, and how bad you want it. On my count commence WANTING!! SSgt Newman, Summer 1968, San Diego
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WELL SON, I HAD A M-1 CARBINE
Way before I joined the Corps and the main reason for this move was Sgt. Dan Robinnette. A true Marine and a veteran there when it began on Oahu in 1941. Uncle Dan is deceased now but, I think of him often with pride and envy. He gave so much and, as far a personal wealth, died with so little. We visited him and his family as often as we could but, these trips were few and far between. I was about 8 or 9 years old and I ask him, "Uncle Dan, what type of rifle did you have on Iwo Jima?" He always perked up when I mentioned the Corps. "Well son, I had a M-1 carbine. It was a nice little weapon if you were up close but, we weren't up close yet. First thing I did was drop that little ?#$@ in the ocean and picked me up a Garand." I said, "Wow Uncle Dan, did some nice Marine give you his to use?" His face got real somber, his eyes turned red and started filling up with water. "Yes Jimmie, a nice Marine gave me his weapon. There were plenty around to choose from." With that statement he would turn and go out into his garden. I remember looking at his back and he was shaking and now I know he was also crying. Semper Fi Uncle Dan. Jim Clontz
THE BOOT REPLIED
I was told the following story about a boot at MCRDSD Who while waiting to form a platoon years ago was assigned the old stick and nail and told to police up the area. As luck would have it the Co of the RDSD happened past him. Not getting a salute and being totally ignored the CO proceeded to tell the Boot who he was and that he was responsible for all the Boots west of the Mississippi. To which the boot replied " Sounds like a very important job,I hope you don't F**k it up". I often wonder where that boot is now. Bill Macpherson (From the bulletin board)
AMENDMENT TO APPLICATION TO DATE MY DAUGHTER
Apparently one of your friends credits this humorous "Application" to you, referencing his many years of friendship with you. The "Application" is hilarious and I'm sure most Marine fathers would use it one way or another. However, with tongue in cheek I recommend you amend one of the "questions" in this "Application."
The current question asks "Do you have a ...Tattoo" and then goes on to say "If you answered YES to ANY of these questions, discontinue application and leave the premises." I would change this question to read "Do you have a Tattoo other than a Marine Corps Emblem or logo." I don't believe there are too many Marine "Dads" who would object to that in any would-be suitor for their daughter. In fact, that should be an immediate "plus."
My sudden interest in "Tattoos" is explainable. Ironically, your Newsletter came just one day after I went with another Marine friend to get Marine Corps Eagle, Globe and Anchor tattoos also. I got mine on my left forearm and he got his on the calf of his right leg. Both of us had mentioned several times this year that we wanted one, but it took each of us encouraging the other to actually make the appointment and go and do it. We are both thrilled we got them. What is perhaps unusual to some about this is that while my friend is under 30 and has been out of the Corps a few years, I retired in 1968 with 22 years of service (including Korea and Vietnam), and I am now past 72 years of age. Never too old for our Corps, however. Almost everyone who has seen it so far has said it is â€œ real cool." My wife of over 50 years thinks so too! So for those of you who have always "wanted" a Marine tattoo but for one reason or another have put it off, I recommend you go and get it now! Semper Fi. Jerry Merna, Mustang, 1stLt USMC (Ret.)
PHYSICAL FITNESS PHILOSOPHY
Sgt Grit, There were several letters in your last newsletter about keeping fit; some guys were still doing push ups and squats and motherfxxkers. While I applaud their dedication, I look at it as having spent 3 years as a physical fitness expert and have had enough for a lifetime. It's no different when friends ask me to go camping. I say, "No thanks. I've had 3 years of professional camping. Been there. Done it. " I have adopted a different physical fitness philosophy from a very famous American hero, Neil Armstrong (now there's credibility!). It is Neil's belief that when you are born, God gives each of us a finite number of heartbeats and when you reach that number . . . well it's off to the big Tank Park in the sky as we tankers like to say. Therefore, all of you running around, doing push ups and squats and motherfxxkers . . . are just wasting your heartbeats! I'm saving mine for more important things.
Sgt Robert Peavey 1966 - '69 5th & 3rd Tank Battalions, RVN
MUST BE A SPY
Dear Sergeant Grit: REGARDING SALUTES When I returned from Chu Lai in '66 I was stationed at Kaneohe Bay and was assigned duties at the Station Brig. I worked with and for an extremely squared-away Staff Sergeant, Daniel F. Hall. Dan was the epitome of a Marine SNCO, tactically and technically proficient and always respectful of seniors and juniors alike. All in all, a fine Marine and fine gentleman.
On one bright and sunny day, Dan and I were walking across the parking lot towards the "Seven Day Store" discussing a particular inmate and how we were going to get him back to the Fleet. We were engrossed in our discussion and didn't notice a young Marine Second Lieutenant getting out of his private vehicle. The Lieutenant was wearing the tropical uniform and a utility cover. He called to us and got our attention. Dan and I immediately saluted properly and before we could offer apologies, the Lieutenant asked rather haughtily "Don't you salute Marine officers?"
Dan quickly replied that he was unfailing in always saluting officers of all branches and would never consider failing to render a salute with pride and precision. He went on to comment that he was sure that the lieutenant was a spy because no Marine lieutenant would EVER be seen wearing a utility cover in the tropical uniform and that he was heading to call the MPs to apprehend the imposter. Dan said all this with a straight face and the lieutenant began to laugh out loud, explaining that he had apparently dropped his cover from his belt as he got into his car. After a short moment of laughter amongst the three of us, we saluted the young man and took our leave.
>I never witnessed Staff Sergeant Hall fail to salute an officer before or after this incident - and come to think of it, I don't think I ever saw another Marine officer out of uniform either. Semper Fi, Michael Hackett SSgt 64-69
ONLY ONE SPEED IN REVERSE, SLOW
My name is John Gerber a USMC 1970 Viet-Nam Vet assigned to 1st FSR/FLC Rat. Co . Along with our regular duties and the shortage of grunts we at FLC did all our security, patrols and shotgun duties every day. It was on one summer day when I was assigned to ride shotgun with three other marines, to deliver supplies to an orphanage somewhere in Happy Valley, that we were almost all killed. As we past the last artillery outpost I wondered why we were sent so far out without an escort or a radio, I guessed this was a secured area. Miles into the ride as we came up a sharp turn heading into a tree line, we ran right into aprox. 25 to 30 Viet Cong ,they were sitting, laying down and standing ,taking a break., HOLY SH__ .!!!.... our truck driver, whom I don't know, stopped immediately and scanned the situation. We were just as surprised to see them as they were to see us. I was locked and loaded and realized we were out numbered and this was the end. As I took aim at the one VC holding the RPG, our driver, a corporal told us to "cool it don't fire" thinking he would put his truck in reverse so we could shoot our way out, he did the unexpected and drove right into them. To my surprise they made a hole and let us pass without firing a shot. Our driver told us that he only had one speed in reverse, "slow" but forward he had many speeds, giving us a fighting chance. In all these years I often thought of that lucky day and why we were not all killed, but the thing that bothers me the most is that we didn't write up this cool headed ,brave young marine, he saved our lives and should have been given a medal, truly a Marine Hero!!!! He was assigned to Seventh Motor Transport Battalion FLC, Red Beach and he used a 50 cal. shell for a shifter knob. So if your reading this Corporal, I thank you. Sgt. John Gerber USMC 1969-75,SEMPER FI
On Aug. 7th it was 60 years ago when the Marine Raiders and the Marine Paratroopers hit Tulagi and surrounding small islands at about the same time that day the Marine 1st Division attacked Guadalcanal. This was the start of the first defeat of the Japanese.
The reason I mention it was because as close as I can tell not one mention of this extremely important battle that changed the course of the war, was mentioned by not one news service in the united States.
>As a member of the 1st Marine Raider Battalion I find this disgusting and tells a lot about how the United States has changed. In 1942 there was only 140 million people in the States and now our population has doubled and I bet you not one in a hundred of these new(Americans tell you even where Guadalcanal is located in this old world. J Ferguson
KEEP THE GREEN MACHINE RUNNING
Dear Sgt. Grit, Audrey, I commend you for your devotion to your Marine however, your Marine does NOT constitute the vast scope of "The Corps". As a combat veteran with the "grunts" (RVN 1966-68), I can't tell you how many times we really appreciated the support from others who were not in our immediate area. Artillery and mortars, thanks for pulling our asses out of some tough situations. Same to the Marine Air Wing and their mechanics, the supply people who made sure we had C-rations, ammo and anything else we needed in the field. Also, how many "grunt Marines" owe their lives to those crazy helicopter pilots who often landed under intense enemy fire to evacuate the wounded, not to mention the mechanics who kept those helos flying? And, those helos did a hell of a lot more. How about the reinforcements that were sparrow hawked in? Yes Audrey, the "grunt" is the back-bone of "The Corps" but, those POGS in the rear keep the "Green Machine" running. Oh, by the way, many thank to those cooks in the rear who made sure we got a hot meal every now and then. As a matter of fact, ask any combat veteran Marine who had the TOUGHEST job when the sh*t hit the fan. I'll bet most, if not all, of those Marines would say it was a person who never went through Marine boot camp, never earned the Eagle, Globe and Anchor, never learned the intricacies of combat tactics and, never had to qualify on the rifle range but, for their numbers, are the most decorated. They were the ones who consistently exposed themselves to enemy fire in order to initiate life saving efforts to Marines wounded in action. Yes Audrey, the toughest combat MOS doesn't even belong to a Marine. It belongs to the Navy Corpsman.
I'm proud of the fact I was a corpsman but, I'm even prouder of the fact I was able to serve with, what I believe, is the very best fighting force in the world. Think about it. When things get hot somewhere in the world, who does the president send first? He sends those whom he considers "the best" he has at his disposal. The Marines. I also feel quite honored that a number of Marines consider the 8404 (corpsman) just as much a Marine as they are.
If a "NAVY" corpsman can understand the importance of those POGS in the rear Audrey, why can't the wife of a Marine? By the way Audrey, you and you're husband can thank some of those POGS for making sure he gets paid.
Thanks Sarg for letting me sound off in you're forum. I'm sorry I rambled on for so long but, I just had to get this off my chest.
>John B. Curry, HMCS, FMF, Ret.
ABOUT THE BEST STATEMENT ON SALUTING IF READ
Sarge, As always the newsletter has some high points that I'm tempted to comment on. This one was no exception. There was some interest when it came to the E-7 (E-8?)that berated some shavetail for expecting a salute. I stood the gate at Port Lyotdy(sp), TI and Philly (among other places) and Marine Barracks guys always bit at the chance to fire off a squared away salute and all that it encompasses. It wasn't only the sharp execution of the arm movement from parade rest, the body coming to attention and the heels popping at the same time the finger tips came to the brow and the recognition from whomever it was that you were executing a military move, this move drew a picture that is still in my mind as a prime example of "Military Courtesy", everything else be damned. When you popped that hand salute to a young lady visiting your gate and because of your professionalism in rendering the hand salute you received that great big smile and all that it means, it don't get no better. A hand salute was always a movement away and if properly executed it made this young marine look like a representative of the legend called the United States Marine Corps. It's the little thing that make marines. And it didn't cost a penny. Semper Fi Mac Frank Biddick 65/69, 0311
Note: Or was he just trying to impress the ladies??
DAUGHTER VERY IMPRESSED
Sgt. Grit My fiancÃ© and I were recently visiting N. Carolina with my daughter, 14, who was playing in the Pony National Softball tournament. He was wearing a shirt we ordered from you, white golf shirt, USMC, Vietnam. He was in Vietnam 1968-70. The 3 of us were window shopping in downtown Raleigh when out came a merchant and asked the usual, when were you in, where were you. My daughter was very impressed about the camaraderie of these 2 Marines who never met. She was quite proud of her future step-father. I have to say I am always proud but as we walked thru the airport that evening he received handshakes and comments about what he had done and on being a Marine. My daughter got more impressed as the day wore on. Once a Marine always a Marine she had heard him say, now she knew why.
Dear Sgt Grit, I have to agree with Cpl Bell, that was one of my biggest peeves, still is. It grates on my last nerve when a military spouse talks about "their Marine Corps career", excuse me! When did you go through boot camp or Annapolis? Until you've earned that title, you are a spouse, and don't have the right to talk trash about the Corps or Marines unless you want to get chewed up one side and down the other. Marines can talk trash because they know it's just that, talk. We know that when it gets down to the wire that we can depend on each other, cause that's how we are. What's that line at the end of "Black Hawk Down"....."civilians will never understand....it's all about the guy(/gal) next you...." . That's not the exact quote, but that's the gist of it, sorry to get on my soapbox here, but this really does piss me off. Semper Fi, Anna Grabill (Cpl 86-91)
BUMPED SHIP DATE??
Sgt. Grit, I AM FURIOUS! I wrote you last week telling you I was heading for Parris Island Sunday, August 4th. Well, that's not so anymore. I have been in the Delayed Entry Program for over 10 months. When I first enlisted, MEPS gave me a ship date of August 4th. Although I wasn't pleased with having a ship date so late in the summer (I wanted to leave sooner, preferably June). They told me that because of my MOS (0200 Intelligence) my recruit training had to coincide with my MOS school date. In other words, if I left any sooner or later than August 4th, I couldn't be in Intelligence. So, OK I thought, I figured it would also give me another month to prepare for the Island. Well, Friday night I called my recruiter and asked him what time he was picking me up Sunday. He informed me that my ship date had been bumped, due to the fact they had 9 other recruits that were "risks" (due to problems they got into while in the DEP) and if they didn't send them to the Island soon, they might lose them. Now, I realize these recruiters have to fill a quota, but don't the Marines want high-quality recruits, and not so-called "risks" go in the Corps?? Not only that, I quit my summer job, told friends and family I was leaving, have spent countless hours studying, PTing, working out at the gym to prepare myself for recruit training. Now the Marines, who I love so much, have pulled the carpet right out from under my feet! What am I supposed to do now? My trust has been broken, and it is very late to start applying for colleges. Sure, I could leave again at some later date (but they don't even know when I can leave yet!) I have put my life on hold for the Marines, how much longer do I have to wait?? And will I still have my Intel job that I signed up for?? Sgt. Grit, please get my word out, and respond! Still Wanna Earn the Title of Marine! -R.W.
St. Peter was at the gate of Heaven and a guy walks up. "What were you on earth?" "I was a policeman with the Los Angeles Police Dept." was the answer. "What did you do on the force? "I was the Detective in charge of the narcotic squad for the ENTIRE LAPD. We kept drugs and drug dealers off the streets." "Excellent, enter Heaven." Here comes another guy. "What were you on earth?" "I was a policeman of the New York City Police Department." Question: "What did you do on the force?" "I was the Detective in charge of the Vice Squad for the ENTIRE NYPD. We kept prostitution off the streets and disease from spreading." "Excellent, enter Heaven." Here comes another guy. "What were you on earth?" "I was a Marine." "What did you do in the Corps?" "I was just a Marine MP." St. Peter answered, "FINALLY, someone I can trust. Watch the gate Marine, I REALLY got to go pee." Bob Rader
THAT IS THE ESSENCE
Sgt. Grit, You and your newsletter serve a true purpose -- congratulations and thank you! The newsletter is clear, the prose are pure, the letters are succinct, they talk of feelings, thought, and emotions. In essence, they tell a story about who we are and what we believe, never quit, never waver, and always do what needs to be done (when no else one can or will) -- that is the essence of the Corps, we are more than an institution, we are a belief, we are way of life. Semper Fi P. Kercher 2nd Battalion, 6th Marines
Sgt Grit and all, I have recently become a reader of your newsletter, (REALLY ENJOY IT) I was born on Parris Island, Feb. 13 1979 and joined the retired ranks on July 1 1999, In 1979 I heard about the "Old Corps" by 1999 I was the "Old Corps" I can Honestly say that it was as good when I left as it was when I was born!! In the 20 plus yrs I spent on active duty I had the privilege of serving with enlisted Marines, Officer Marines, black Marines, white Marines, Asian Marines, division Marines, airwing Marines, support Marines, heavy Marines, light Marines, good Marines, and some not so good Marines, smart Marines and some not so smart Marines, and on more than one occasion, confused Marines, but they all have one thing in common: THEY ARE MARINES!!!!!! NUFF SAID SEMPER FI A.M. Miller USMC (ret)
PS. To the Cpl who corrected the idiot store keeper ooh-rah!! and Cudoos to you. It is unfortunate that so many have sacrificed so much defending the rights of idiots to be idiots.
Sgt. Grit, Reflections on the communication from MSgt Scott McClennan of recent date. I ended my Marine career after two years active duty and another eight in the organized reserve. I was promoted to MSgt (later GySgt) in 1956 and that title has meant more to me than my PhD and even the Honorary Doctor of Science awarded to me by Margreth the Second, Queen of Denmark back in 1993. Thanks for offering the chance to reflect. Bob Higgins GySgt USMCR
MARINE CORPS ENGINEERS
About 6 months ago I wrote an article that was published by Sgt Grit about a National Organization of Marine Corps Engineers. I wish to thank him for publishing it and to the 50 Plus that responded to it. We added 30 new members to the organization just from the article, that pushed our membership over the 800 mark. Our reunion is coming up on the 25-29 September in Branson, Missouri and this is to let the engineers know , that didn't get the word that we still have a few hundred openings left. LOL. All Marine Corps Engineers and anyone that ever served or supported a Marine Engineer unit is welcome to join. Information can be obtained ny contacting: MSgt Garland G. Greer USMC Rtd 405 Knollwood Dr Morganton, NC 28655 Phone:828-437-9329 KYCOL8@AOL.Com
WHO'S THE BACKBONE
I would like to make a comment in ref, to Ssgt D.W. Uselton. ref the l/cpl Kliens comments. I would like to say to you sir that you as a staff NCO out of all people should be passing on to the junior troops the wisdom and the ethics that you should have been taught. I can say that the first thing that is taught to every "UNITED STATES MARINE" sir is, that all Marines are the backbone of the Marine Corps. I will tell you that each and every Marine is a gear, in one of the worlds most complex machine. a MARINE. From day one you are taught that you are a" TEAM" and that every and anything you do will be done and accomplished as a team. The junior troops are the ones that will take our beloved corps into the next generations and to here you say that only the cpl.is considered the backbone of the corps is upsetting to me. I know you are probably not saying it with any ill intentions but the corps is always an institution that prides itself on the history of its accomplishments. semper fi, staff sgt, .
THE GUNNY IN MIAMI.
WHAT I FIND MOST INTERESTING
Dear Sgt Grit, I just finished reading your last news letter sent to me by a good friend, and I read it with tears in my eyes, tears of pride, and a spirit of patriotism I have never felt before. My father was a Marine in WWII, and myself 1966-1969. My brother was one of us as well. So we know the pride only a Marine can feel. My father is in the hospital as I write, just recently having his left foot amputated because of diabetes. Because of the heavy narcotics he has been taking for along time for the constant persistent pain, he has lost touch with reality, and in some cases does not even recognize his own children and wife. I am hoping of course as he is comes out of the narcosis he will return to normal, and I see signs of that. What I find most interesting is that during the hallucinations, he recalls in detail his trip through Marine Boot Camp in San Diego, and some of his experiences while assigned to Midway Island. He talks about the Corsairs, and the shore battery's. he talks about shooting a cannon at Japanese submarines, and the like. He is 76 years old and still recalls, most of the time with obvious pride his days as a US Marine. I am 56 years old and every time a fellow Marine and I see each other we always say "Semper Fi", to one another. People laugh at us but they will never know the "brotherhood", that exists between we marines. I am an assistant chief for the Miami Fire Department, and each day when I prepare my uniform for work, I meticulously make sure all the name tags and devices are straight, badge is on straight and correct and my shoes are shined. One day in my office building, a woman stopped me and said, you had to have been a marine, it shows. As I smiled back at her and smiled, I looked at her and said, "Semper Fi, always".
Chief Michael J. Essex Special Operations Officer Emergency Response Division City of Miami Fire Rescue Sergeant, USMC 66-69
Well, I have already read some of the thoughts and feelings about one very stereotypical dependent wife who thinks she knows something about being a Marine. I have played that role, too, but I was enlisted in the Marine Corps before marrying one. Anyone who was in another branch of the service, be it Navy or whatever, has no right to belittle anyone who has earned the title of Marine. We all have a role, and not everyone can concentrate on practicing all of the skills that we learned in basic training because there are so many other aspects of the Marine Corps about which most people are unaware. I was part of Signals Intelligence and worked with many intelligent linguists and analysts who provided much more interesting conversation than some of the other Marines. Sure, not all of them were in the best shape because they were sitting in a building with no windows in the middle of nowhere keeping track of those people who would like to do us harm. These are your POGs, or whatever trendy label you wish to use. These are the guys who point the grunts in the right direction and tell them who to shoot. There are also Marines who are in supply or logistics or medical who have full-time jobs in addition to qualifying with a rifle. They don't get the practice that the 0311s get, so they won't do as well. If you put some of those 0311s in the jobs or roles held by some of the other Marines, they would fail miserably. The Marine Corps is a team, a brotherhood that those of you who have never earned the title will NEVER understand, no matter how many Marines you marry. Yes, all Marines are basic riflemen. Ideally, all of them would shoot well and run first class PFTs. Realistically, however, we have recruiters pulling 15-hour days who get a chance to exercise once a week and linguists who sit with headphones on for 12 hours who want only to sleep when they get home. For all of you out there who have not spent your 3 months of basic at Parris Island or San Diego (or elsewhere further back), you don't get it...you can't. You never will. Be quiet and thank God that there are those Marines who don't get the time to PT because they are filling important roles. None of us want to hear your whining, but we are awaiting your apology. Semper Fi-- Lori (Moore) Casanova USMC, '86 - '90
Grit, In regards to TSgt (1949-1958) in writing up a Mgysgt for not saluting a 2nd Lt, unless they changed the UCMJ, Article 15 is Destruction of Government Property. NOT Disrespect to an Officer. Although I do agree that the 'Old Corp' Marine should've saluted the O-1 out of respect for his commissioned position appointed by higher authority, and the gold bars that give him the license to start gaining experience as a Marine Corps Officer, at least get the legal information from the UCMJ correct. J.S. Elliott USMC-0311 '84-'85 -Honorable Discharge with Good Conduct Medal
NEVER MISSED A BEAT
Sgt Grit Another story to add to the Salute saga.... I was assigned to MCAS El Toro after my tour as a DI in San Diego. Not real happy about going back to the wing but what can ya do? I wasn't real impressed with many of the young Marine pilot officers and their seeming lack of understanding of military etiquette. They demanded respect without giving it in return. No question they were good pilots but they didn't yet realize they were only as good as the troops who supported them. I discussed this with a number of like minded NCO's and we each had our own thoughts on the subject. So, one day while walking in front of the PX, a young 1stLt approached three of us and we all gave him a sharp salute - LEFT HANDED. He never missed a beat, never changed his expression, and returned the salutes LEFT HANDED. We began to change our opinions after that one. R. Kemp 1439323
MARINE CORPS LEAGUE
Sgt Grit I would like it if you could put this in your news letter. I'm not much on writing letters but someone needs to say something. The Marine Corps League needs members. We are a group of Marines and friends and families that help fellow veterans no matter what branch and mainly kids. The league was form in 1923 and now we are seeing detachment after detachment close its door to a lack of interest. And the big loser are the Kids who need Toys 4 Tots. A lot of kids will be going without Christmas because are fellow marines say they are just to busy. I haven't meet anyone who can meet my schedule first off I have 5 kids of my own to raise my youngest is deaf .work full time, we are a emergency family for foster children, I'm a scout leader for boy scout troop 53,boy scout troop post 293 law enforcement, cub scout pack 53, committee member of cub scout pack 118 and troop 53, during the school years we co-host 2 world exchange students, in the fall I coach little league, spring time I coach soccer, there are other things also, but you get the message. I still do my part and more. But the Marine Corps League should be something every Marine Veteran should be proud to be a part of. We should be setting the example for the kids of are future. I know when I wear my uniform I receive a lot of good comments from community. which makes you know its all worth while. So all you fellow Marines with your Marine Corps bumper stickers plaster all over you cars. If you still proud to be a Marine start being one cut the excuses and join your local Marine Corps League detachments. Once a Marine always a Marine right . And kids of your area needs your help. And Sgt Grit can you start carrying Marine Corps League gear? go to www.mcleague.org and if you are in the Virginia Shenandoah valley area firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com
Marine Veteran Sgt William Molitor 1980--1986 Lt. Gen Lewis B. Puller Detachment Winchester Va
Note: Actually I would like to carry MCL items, BUT...the league has the copy write and will not let others sell it. If you notice you will not find it for sale anywhere but MCL Magazine.
THEY WERE THERE
I think all the Marines that have been giving the Marine Wife Audry a hard time need to lighten up and remember when we were young Marines and had been nowhere and done nothing, and didn't know any better. When I was a garrison Marine with no experience I used to also refer to some of my fellow Marines as POGS. I quit that when I went to Viet Nam and met and got to know a couple of Marines whom I would have referred to as POGS had we been stateside. They were our company clerks Randy Cook and Phil Gardner.
When the feces hit the rotating wind machine they were there, when we stood holes they were there, when we went on operations they were there, when there was a reaction team to be assembled they were there, and finally when our fellow Marines were killed or wounded they were there.. And you know what they didn't carry a typewriter, they carried a weapon and from my experience were not afraid to use it.
And then on top of that they still made sure we were paid and that all the reports were done and worst of all they still had to write those terrible letters to wives and parents for the CO, advising of their loved ones death. And in many cases they knew the loved one better than the CO did.
No I don't think they want to be grunts, I think they are Grunts with allot of additional duties, that we grunts can not or do not want to do.
Semper Fi to all Marines Sgt. Nat Holmes USMC 1966-72
Sgt. Grit, I need help, I am getting married on the second of November near Orlando, FL. I would very much like to have a Marine Sword Cordon at my wedding however, besides myself there will be only one Marine at my wedding and he is having to fly in from Texas. If there are any Marines stationed and/or living near Orlando and would be interested in helping please e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org. I suppose the only pre-req is that you have blues and a sword...
Semper Fi LCpl Steven Hunsaker
SOME INNOCENT CREW CHIEF
Slinging tie-down chains stolen from a carrier deck out of a helicopter at sampans is a great way to break the ice with some new crewmen and it really lightens up the grunts on board. One must sling down and to the 5 o'clock so the pilot doesn't see the motion. If he sees it, you gotta quickly key the mike and say something like, "Sir, we gotta go back down there! One of our chains fell out!" The trick is not to giggle when you say it. Best not to do it with the CO or XO on board. Even more best not to sling one at an ARVN patrol boat.... they can read the big numbers on the aircraft. Some ARVN officers can really get bent out of shape easily. Of course you could always explain that you were holding the chain as tightly as an ARVN when a firefight breaks out. Most of the ARVN officers will drop their weapons and run soon as you say, "firefight." Your pilot will not and you will have to fly back to the squadron (where the SMAJ, CO, XO and Maintenance Chief are usually hanging around waiting for some innocent crew chief to f$$k with. It's hard being a crew chief. Bill McNair (From the bulletin board)
able, baker, charlie, dog, easy, fox, george, howe, item, joker, king......ahhh, ............ahahhh............love, ahhh, .............x-ray, yellow, zebra. Bob Rader ... Let a squid continue: mike, nan, oboe, peter, queen, roger, sugar, tare, uncle, victor, william....... Harold "Doc" Schainberg US Navy Fmfcorpsman Retired
BOY DO WE NEED THEM
Only 0311 This is to the marines wife who felt she had a right to complain about the "POG's" or REMF as we grunts call them. let me inform you of something. You need to learn your place. Although we grunts love to give poges a hard time we know that we need them. We have a saying. If you aint a grunt your just support. But boy do we need them. Someone has to make sure we have the ammo and MRE's we need. You want to see a happy grunt? Tell him he doesn't have to walk today. that means we get a ride. Or that he get's a hot meal in the field. that means some cook has to get up early or stay later. and we thank him/her. And we always know that arty is just a radio call away. So yes REMF's are just that but use hard corps grunts can't do or job the way it needs to be done without them. SEMPER FI Benji C Smith B 1/5 86-90
TALK ABOUT RESPECT FOR THE CORPS
Sgt Grit, Here's another story about saluting. In March 1973 I graduated from The Basic School (TBS)in Quantico as a green-as-grass 2nd Lt. and was sent with one of my classmates, 2nd Lt. Jerry Haden, to the U.S. Army Armor Officer Basic Course at Ft. Knox, KY to learn how to be a tank officer. Jerry and I were the only Marines in of a class of 58 2nd Lieutenants. The thing that really killed the Army Lieutenants was that we would all be walking between buildings going from one class to the next or to chow and of course we passed lots of Army enlisted men. The enlisted men invariably ignored the Army lieutenants, but as they approached Jerry and me they would snap out a crisp salute and say, "Good morning, Sir!" Jeez, talk about respect for the Corps! It was really embarrassing for the Army guys and I usually felt sorry for them. This was the immediate post-Vietnam era when the Army held its own leadership in very low repute. An incident that I'll never forget came during one of the classes we were taking. The instructor, an Army officer named Capt. Wolfe, was really giving Jerry and me a hard time about being Marines. He finally came to a point where he was wondering how he should address us. "What do I call you jarheads, Mister, Lieutenant, or what??" Without hesitating, I calmly stood up and said, "Captain, you can call me 'Sir'!" The whole class immediately cracked up and the Captain winced with that retort. When everyone stopped laughing he said, "Well, I guess I asked for that one." He sure did. - John G. Hogan Major, USMCR, 1972 - 1990 Seattle, WA
Sgt Grit, I am going to put forth a different topic of discussion for my fellow brothers: Tattoos. I am just curious as to the general feeling regarding them. I enlisted in 1981 at the ripe age of 18 and served proudly for 4 years as a grunt (0331). Immediately after arriving at Camp Geiger for ITS, a group of us grabbed a cab and headed to Court Street to get inked up with the Bulldog, Eagle, Globe and Anchor or whatever else caught our gleaming and gung-ho eyes. By the time I was done (over a period of about a year I guess) I had amassed 5 tattoos (one on each forearm, one on each biceps and one on my right calf). As an enlisted man it seemed common practice and very much accepted, although I had heard that officers did not get them because it was not the "gentlemanly thing to do" (I did come across a 1st Lt. who had one), but I thought it very appropriate at the time for any Marine, enlisted or otherwise. Over the years my point of view regarding tattoos in general has changed somewhat although the pride I have in my own is still existent because to me they symbolize a "badge of courage" so to speak or a sign stating the pride that I have in having enlisted and served with the World's Finest Fighting Force" (I still recall vividly that sign hanging over the portal at the receiving barracks at Parris Island). When my 4 years was up I took a job as an electrician, then as an overhead lineman and eventually went to school and worked my way inside as an Electrical Designer for the local utility company.
Herein lies my dilemma so to speak. I find that working around professionals and business-minded people that they tend to look "down upon" anyone with tattoos regardless of the tattoo's nature. Its not so bad in my work environment, because my coworkers know me and respect me for my work ethic, but in others places people tend to stereotype me without first reading my tattoos. For example, at my daughter's school (she attends a private Catholic school) I have heard a few remarks regarding tattoos form some of the so called upper-crust parents (some are, but most just think they are) and it bothered me somewhat. For a while there, I kept them covered up when I attended school functions, which was no mean feat since I usually wore a long-sleeve shirt and tie to work anyway and went from work to pick up my daughter or to attend any of these functions, but my wife got on me about being paranoid and gradually I started wearing polo type shirts when the dress-code allowed for them. She kept reminding me that I had earned them and should not cover them up. I reminded her of my intense pride in being a Marine (she knows that all too well anyway - no need to tell her), but that it was the tattoo itself I was covering up, not what it stood for. And just when I started to feel better again about them, I remembered that our officers, as a rule, did not get them because it was not the "gentlemanly thing to do". So, I guess my question is:, "what is the overall opinion of military tattoos and are they really any different from any other kind of tattoo? If so why then do our officers not get them, as they obviously feel the same sense of pride as we enlisted Marines do? Semper Fi brothers, Mike Kunkel - Cpl (0331) 1981-1985
MARINE (FUTURE) NEEDS HELP
Dear Sgt. Grit I've been reading your newsletter for some time now and a lot of it is pertaining to proud parents of marines. Well, I have just enlisted in the marines through the DEP program and I don't have that luxury. Neither parent of mine is supportive and the only support I am finding is the LT. of my Junior ROTC unit and your newsletter. The marines have been something that I've been dreaming about for years and now that my departure is imminent, everyday is a lecture on abandoning the family and how miserable my life is going to unfold to be. I was kind of hoping that you might be able to get a newsletter out with the word of actual marine parents, saying how proud they are of their marines so I might appease my own. If you could my e-mail address is Flames5423@aol.com and if any encouraging word could be sent it would be greatly appreciated by myself and, hopefully, my parents. Thank you Semper Fidelis Marine to be Matthew Smith
THE WINNING PHRASE
Last night I watched "Rules of Engagement" for the first time.... It usually takes me a while to "get around to" watch a military film... I still haven't seen "Blackhawk Down"...
For those of you who've already seen it, what I'm gonna say will make sense. For those of you who haven't seen it, I highly recommend the following.....<
During the end of the courtroom scenes....
The Defense Lawyer tells the judges that if they find his client guilty it'd be worse than if they had left him wounded on the battlefield....
THAT was the winning phrase of the entire movie...MARINES DON'T DO THAT......<
just a thought. Art
WOMEN MARINES PASSING
Sgt. Grit, Can you please pass on the loss of another Marine. My mother and step-mother served together in the USMC Women's Reserve in WWII at Quantico. My mother passed on in 1970. My step-mother, Gwendolyn Lyle "Scotty" Brown joined the rest of the Marines guarding the streets of heaven on July 30, 2002. She was active in the Women Marines Association in Washington State. She was hard corps to the end. It was her influence that made me decide to become a Marine also. Thank you. Cpl Fred L. Brown FMF Pac Band 1981-1985
Sgt. Grit, I just wanted to share a quick story with your readers. While assigned to the 1st Marine Amphibious Brigade, K-Bay, HI, our Sgt. Major was Sgt. Major Allan Kellogg, Medal of Honor, Vietnam. We deployed to Team Spirit 1987 and, while there, I ran into a friend I was with at the 1st LSB, Camp Pendleton. As we were strolling and chatting along the Pohong Pier, Sgt. Major Kellogg walked by and I rendered a hand-salute, which is due to all MOH recipients. As was Sgt. Major Kellogg's style, he crisply returned the salute and my morning greeting. My friend, unfamiliar with Sgt. Major Kellogg's MOH, asked what the heck I was doing. I promptly replied that obviously he was not up on the latest regulations, which clearly state that ALL Sgt. Majors will be saluted. He told me thanks for the tip. I said hey, it's the least I can do for a friend. I often think with a chuckle what happened the first time he walked by a salty Sgt. Major and whipped out his finest salute...
Toby Trout Corporal 1984-88
TO: Sgt. K. R. Coffman 0341-8541 FROM: COL John Stockton, USA Army and Air Force recruits go to Basic Training. Marines, NAVY and COAST GUARD go to Boot Camp. But as far as I know, they all wear Boots !!! ..........
Hey Sgt Grit...I just want to say that I am going through the police academy now and everything I was taught in boot camp, I am applying to the academy and I am giving 110% everyday....thank god I became a Marine!!! CL ..........
If Audrey thinks anyone who is not an 03 is a slug then I would hate to hear what she thinks about those of us who are in the reserves! Anthony J Camacho GySgt USMCR ..........Just a quick addition to Cpl. James Bell, just how happy would she be without the payroll clerks, they seem to affect the wife the most. Oh by the way OOUHF**KINGGRAHH Cpl. Bell. L/Cpl. Ray Koser Jr. 2531 (med retired) ..........
Until next time. Semper fi Sgt Grit
God Bless America!!