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It was several years after I got back from Korea before I could afford to go to college so I was on campus during the Viet Nam war. Whenever there was a "peace march" I was out there to oppose it along with a few other Korean War veterans. How we wished there were more of us!. So all you Nam Vets, now it's your turn. Don't let them do to these kids today what they did to you. Guys from my war will be out there again---- going up against all those demonstrators who refuse to back our military ----but this time we expect to see a lot bigger bunch of vets than we had before. There ought to be enough to have a march before the other march. And we know how to do it better!!
J B Bell, Sgt.1950-1954
lets all quit talking, and moaning, and whining.....lets have some fun.....lets play cowboys and iraquis.
SSgt DJ Huntsinger
Hi Sgt Grit
I am sorry to hear (or should I say read) some of your marines write such hateful letters. There is no need to call other people (of your own country) MAGGOTS. Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. I am a proud mom of a US Marine. He has just been deployed to Iraq. He is our youngest son. Sure, I am scared to death for him and pray for his safe return . But I don't judge other people for their beliefs or call them names. By the way, we also have a son in the Air Force and my husband was in the army, as was my father. I am proud of them all, and wish and pray for ALL of our military to return safely. Thank You for letting me sound off too. Pray For Peace God Bless America!
I watched the report by Hans Blix and I also support further inspections. I am waiting for the day the Marines and other troops in the area begin those final inspections. Also, I have been following the reports of US citizens going to Iraq to become human shields. There is a positive aspect to this in that it is increasing the IQ of both countries. Keep them going.
Viet Nam, 1969-1970
So, did you hear about those new French tanks they just came out with? Ya, they're the ones out there with the back-up lights on 'em.
L.J. Hayhurst, Cpl. USMC
Going to war without France.
Deer hunting without an accordion.
I see no difference!
Worrying about the French going to war is like worrying about the French going to war without the Frito-lay-lady..
Worrying about the Germans going to war is like worrying about the Germans going to war without Hitler....
Worrying about the Russians going to war is like worrying about the Russian going to war without Stalin....
The French, Germans, and Russians, I say the hell with them. We do not need them. We the MARINES don't need their help.
Roberto T. Castillo
U.S. Marine Corps - '65 - 69'
Vietnam Vet -'66'-'67'-'68' - Danang ServCo,7thEngrBn(Rein)FMF-1stMarDiv
Shoot First - Ask Questions Later
Been There - Done That
Dear Sgt. Grit:
Do you know why France doesn't know how to defend Paris? They've never had to!
Former Sgt. Moss
The French make me sick! My wife and I were in France on 9/11. French people paused to watch the news and after that it was business as usual. We should stop worrying about what the French and Germans think of us. We should start letting them know what we think of them. I loved the film on the news today of the restaurant owner pouring his French and German wine down the sewer in front of his store. What a guy!! My job in the Marines was that of a crash crewman on a Marine Corps Air Facility in Santa Ana, Ca. (MCAF)I didn't contribute much but I was always prepared to do my job. I am proud as hell to be a Marine.
Sgt Mark C. Klein 1480816 54/58
Love playing poker with them French. Look them in the eye and they'll fold with a royal flush. Me sitting with a Jack high.
WITH FRIENDS LIKE THESE WHO NEEDS ENEMIES!!!
I've had trouble finding reports of any terrorists attacks in France or Germany during the last 15 years. Almost every other large, industrial country in Europe has experienced some kind of terrorist attack but not France or Germany. Is this just a coincidence? I think not.
Perhaps we should just go along with France, Germany and Belgium with the understanding that we will visit upon them like attacks that we may suffer in the future. Maybe that will put a different spin on their self-centered actions!
By the way, I heard a historically accurate joke today - How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris??
No one knows, it has never been tried before!!!!
Richards 71 - 75
"The French, of course, don't believe it and are demanding more inspections". -
-Andy Borowitz discussing Michael Jackson's plastic surgery.
"France wants more evidence...The last time France wanted more evidence it rolled right through France with a German flag." --David Letterman
"The only way the French are going in is if we tell them we found truffles in Iraq."
"Cheese-eating surrender monkeys"
Q: "What do you call 100,000 Frenchmen with their arms up?
A: The Army."
"Why are there no fireworks at EuroDisney? Because every time they went off, the French tried to surrender."
"A Frenchman's home is where another man's wife is."
"There is nothing lower than the human race....Except the French."
Q: Have you heard about the new French flag?
A: It is a white cross on a white background.
Posted on the Sgt Grit Bulletin Board
Sgt Grit - OOH RAW!
More about the French and their reluctance to enjoin our cause with Iraq - My Daddy and my Uncle as they marched across France during world War 11 - They uncovered some very brave "French Free Fighters" They were all dressed like Nuns with wigs and habits and were all appearing to do the durty to God. The truth of the matter was that they had laid down their arms months ago and retreated to a holy place thinking they would be safe from the Nazi juggernaut! When my Uncle's squad broke their way into a cellar under a monetary - there they were, the French Elite Troopers, huddled up and "Pissing in their Pantaloons" Those Brave Souls!! They told me, that the only true fighters in France were women, many of whom were fearless in the underground-It gaulded their backsides to see the Allied Troops give General DeGaulle the opportunity to ride into Paris as a conquering hero-surrounded by gay waiters, warm bread and red wine! Raising their glasses to the chicken sh*t. If they gave out awards for being "Cowards" the French would win hands down, excepting maybe the Republican Guards in Desert Storm 1!
Tks, Sgt Grit, you provide a great service - I read with enthusiasm your news letters.
C.R. Brockwell USMC 52-56, Semper Fi!
Hey Sgt. Grit,
The only French military unit anyone's ever heard of is their FOREIGN Legion. How proud the French must be to have the sons of other countries keeping them safe.........(then again, I reckon they're pretty much used to it by now).
Zimmerman, Cpl. Golf 2/1 RVN 69
The only time a Frenchman will speak to an American is when there is Germans in Paris.
I am a Marine Vet of Vietnam 1965-1966. I saw first hand what people like Hussein are like. The V C would kill their own people and Hussein has done the same thing. There is no place in this world for animals like that. They must be eliminated. Those of you that don't think so have never been away from your Mother's apron strings. It is essential that we rid the world of these monsters. All I can say is if the Marines go in then Saddam better go and dig himself a hole and cover himself up. If we do go in, lets do it right this time. Let the military do what they are trained to do. I'm not a war monger but I would bet that most of the military would agree with me. Go get him.
God bless our boys and especially the Marines.
IF the anti-war/America group would support the War effort against Iraq, Saddam would have to go into exile and everyone would get what they want. But the anti-everything group emboldens Saddam which prolongs the negotiations and ultimately prolongs the war. This in turn puts American troops in harms way when they may not have to be or for longer than necessary. So as far as I'm concerned they are killers of Americans.
As the widow of a recently deceased Viet Nam Veteran, and a Proud Marine, I want to send my support and my love to all serving our country to keep it safe. God be with you and protect you all....
Donna L. Medlin
widow of John S. Medlin 12/18/50-11/8/02
Served in Viet Nam 1969-1970
they are going to f**kin' hit us when we don't expect it... right now?? we are expecting it...5 years from now...we won't...
It's hard to think about the days ahead. It's hard to think about history repeating itself. But, we are the 'Home of the Brave' and the 'Land of the Free.' And, we do need to defend that right and be ready at a moments notice.
Every night, I say a prayer for those in uniform, no matter what branch of service. I ask God to bless those away from their families. It's because of them and because of those who came before us, protesters can protest any kind of military action. It blows me away that when you have money, you can talk all you want. But, I would love to see those in showbiz put 'their' lives on the line, everyday. It's okay to stay back in the wings when 'common folk' are protecting your freedom!! Put down the microphone, get away from in front of the camera, and pick up a weapon and stand a post. See what it's like to be an Airman, a Sailor, a Soldier, but most of all, I DARE you to be a United States Marine!!
Shaun P. McClearn
Cpl. USMC (1993-1997)
Am I missing something here? You state that "we will be in a world war with the Muslim world" if we continue the way we are going. WAKE UP, DOC!!! We ARE in a war!
Karl Reger (former Sgt.)
USMC, class of '68-'72
Thank you for sending out a newsletter. I was sickened to see a cover AOL story that "millions" are going to protest the war this weekend. Biased reporting. I will pray for each and every Marine mentioned in these newsletters who are shipping out as well as their loved ones. Retired Marines! Other Americans! We have an obligation to help those family members who are left behind. These wives are going to need emotional support and other things when the plumbing stops up, the fireplace damper won't close. Let's all ban together and help each other and pray.
If I may make some observations.
1. The new generation of French tanks have total of 7 gears: 6 reverse gears and one forward gear in case of attack from the rear.
2. The French do an outstanding job of maintaining American cemeteries on their soil.
3. I keep hearing about how Iraq will clean our clocks this time. The last war only lasted 96 hours. Would logic dictate that we have already killed those Iraqi troops with the guts to fight?
4. I made the mistake of logging on to the "Hate America First" Bulletin Board on AOL this morning. Most of the crap was the same old party line of the morally and mentally bankrupt left, but one particular posting was even more incredibly than the norm. The writer stated that the WTC had been there for years, and no one attacked it before Bush (read Hitler) became President.
Now, this genius has to be the product of one of our institutions of higher learning. The first attempt to bring down the WTC by Bin Loser's bunch was in 1993. I am not so lean and twice as lean nowadays, and can't remember what I had for breakfast, but even I know that Queen Hilary and her husband were president in 1993. Also, wasn't the Cole and the embassy bombings in Africa under Hil's watch, too? Who attacked the aspirin factory?
It really saddens me that US Marines fight and die to allow morons like this to spew their venom and outright lies. And this was only one of hundreds of postings by the Hate America First folks. 5. During the SEA Wargames, I was never spat upon. I wouldn't tolerate it. I don't understand why any vet or service member would. Especially back in the day when the majority of police were vets themselves. If someone wants to make a political statement on you, you should have every right to respond in kind. 6. Human shields are really CIA operatives carrying laser designators. The proper term for them is actually "aiming stakes". 7. There is a rumor going around that all our ammunition is being coated in bacon grease. Anyone know what that's about?
Enough rambling for one day. Thanks for the forum. Good luck and Godspeed to those going in harm's way.
Marine Iwo Jima Remembrance Reunion
Huff-Minor Post 14 of the American Legion, Ponca City will be hosting this years Marine Corps Iwo Jima Remembrance Reunion, March 6, 2003 at the Post located at 407 W South Ave. (Bus Hwy 60). Doors will open at 1700, supper served at 1830 followed by a short program.
Last year Marine Veterans from all over Oklahoma attended. All interested parties are encouraged to attend.
A "mobile" museum of Marine Corps memorabilia will be set up at the reunion. This collection consist of uniforms, web gear, weapons, medals, books, recruiting signs and dozens of other items from WW I to present. Over 30 uniforms will be on display along with a 1965 USMC M151A1 jeep with a mounted .50 cal. machine gun. Those attending are encouraged to bring their items of interest to share with fellow Marines.
The battle for Iwo Jima started on February 19th, 1945. The fight for Iwo Jima, which was strategically important because of the air base, was one of the bloodies battles in Marine Corps history. This battle included the 3rd, 4th and 5th Marine Divisions and more than 450 ships massed off Iwo as the H-hour bombardment pounded the 8 square mile island.
After 36 days of fighting, more than 26,000 American casualties were taken, including 6,800 dead. Of the 20,000 Japanese defenders, only 1,083 survived. Twenty-seven Medals of Honor were awarded to Marines and sailors, many posthumously, after the battle for Iwo. More Medals of Honor were given for the Iwo Jima battle than any other single operation during the war. Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, Pacific Fleet/Commander in Chief, Pacific Ocean Areas said, "Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island, uncommon valor was a common virtue."
More information can be obtain by contacting Post 14 at (580) 765-9073, F.G. Williams at (580) 762-2029 or Chuck Gregg at (918) 785-4705, firstname.lastname@example.org, or at PO Box 57, Strang, OK 74367. Any and all Marines are encouraged to attend.
one thing i like about your newsletter is that you stand back and let everyone take their shots, no matter where the rounds land. i, too, enjoy reading the various articles which come from all different walks and minds. i was thinking about all the people who fly the flag, in all different conditions and positions(except upside down). i am the worst one on "political correctness" you have ever seen, so,i for one, don't mind people flying the flag even if they don't know how. at least there would seem to be some spark of patriotism there. i doubt if any type of war protester flys one. i don't know all the rules and regs on flying a flag, myself, but i do love this country as much as anyone, and i love seeing all those flags out there, no matter where or why or when.
rusty, 0311 65-68.
Flag etiquette at https://www.grunt.com/flagetiquette.htm
Greetings Sgt Grit and Readers,
I am a retired active duty Gunnery Sergeant (1981 - 2001) now working as a letter carrier with the Postal Service. My thought on this whole war with Iraq thing is this - You don't send your "team" to the "Super Bowl" only to flip the coin, shake hands, and then hit the showers. I won't get into specifics, but really good sources have let me know that the Marines have the situation well in hand. When would your Ole' CO plan a training event? On a side note, many of our letter carriers are former active duty service members, including one who is about fifty something, in awesome shape, and who also served THREE consecutive tours in Vietnam as an infantryman (also a former D.I.). Needless to say, when he speaks - people listen - including our awesome Station Manager who himself is a former active duty Marine. Support your Marines - for they are "everywhere"... And please support your letter carriers by sending someone that you care about a letter, for many of the Carriers are prior service Marines. Semper Fidelis my fellow Brothers and DevilDogs!
Utah Marine License Plate "DVLDG"
R/S Gy S sends from Salt Lake City Utah
In the Warrior's Code, there is no surrender. Although the body says, "stop"; the spirit cries, "never".
I want to add my 2 cents in this whole Iraq war. I am stationed with the Air Force and I get to see a lot of what is going on in Iraq, all the violations Iraq is in violation of (U.N.Resolution 1441). Tell all the war protester's, that the freedom of speech that they are exercising, is possible cause of warrior's such as myself and all the service men and women over here and those that came before us did to keep that freedom of speech. I saw on CNN that someone is suing the government for sending their children to fight a war that they do not believe in, well your children signed the dotted line! Nobody held a gun to their head and made them sign like they do in Iraq. Jack Nicholson said it best in the movie "A Few Good Men", "You live under the blanket of freedom in which I provide, and then question the way in which I provide it. I would rather you say thank You, and went on your way. otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post". I think about that line every time I hear or read fellow Americans opposed to what I am doing, I know a taste of freedom the average American can only dream about. That is cause I actually provide it, so freedom means more to me. Many people will not know what freedom is till it is gone, as long as I am willing to go fight for freedom no American will ever have to know what it will be like to not have freedom. Some are all blinded by the media, this is NOT about oil. Or anything else other than Saddam Hussein Suppressing his fellow man, he is and has killed those that disagree with him. He will go down fighting cause he wants to feed his ego by letting the world know that he is not afraid of the United Nations or the United States, He thinks he is above the law. He has been told to quit going into the no fly and drive zones, but he still does to this day. He was told by the U.N. Resolution 1441 to comply or suffer severe consequences, he goes on unfazed cause nobody has slapped him up side the head. Saddam is like a son the is defiant, the son will walk all over you till you step up and bring him back to earth. Well We are over here, and ready to slap Saddam up side his head. It is time to step up, Desert Storm we warned him. Now he is getting his spanking, and it is going to hurt so he will never forget it. To all of you reading this remember this line from the movie "A Few Good Men", and repeat it to those you hear disagree with this war. Americans can be naive, and jump to conclusions without knowing the facts. Lets educate them so they do not make a fool out of themselves, as the three individuals I noted earlier. I will not put up being treated like my father did when he came home from "NAM", I will make those who do pay a heavy price for the freedom I provide them. God Bless America, and God Bless The CORPS!!
Sgt Ingraham, C.J. USMC
"The choice we face today is not between war and peace. Rather it is between war now -- under circumstances and timing of our choosing -- and war later, when conditions may be far more favorable to Saddam Hussein."
--Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.
"The eyes of the world being thus on our Country, it is put the more on its good behavior, and under the greater obligation also, to do justice to the Tree of Liberty by an exhibition of the fine fruits we gather from it."
I hope that if any Marine, or American for that matter, ever witness any other American exhibiting pride in their country or Corps being harassed or abused in any manner, that they would immediately react in a manner that would discourage future harassment. I know that I, along with other members of the Sunrise Detachment Marine Corps League would. remember, they are part of our family, too! And nobody messes with my family.
John Lee A 1/5 1st MarDiv 69/70
IÂ´m Tobias Wichmann from Germany.IÂ´ve read your newsletter today and I must say that the Opinion of the German Government is not the opinion of the German people and not my opinion. We know that Saddam Hussein must be stopped(DIE).The Problem is, the German Government didn't know that. Not every German is a *sshole like the German Government.
To all Marines who fight against terrorism in Iraq-SEMPER FIDELIS!!!!!!!!!!
Excuse me the grammatical mistakes
Well Good luck to all of those brothers going back to the Gulf. Stay low and practice the NBC drills VERY often. Don't be macho and try to prove what a tough SOB you are, because everyone already knows the Marine Corps is the best. Prove to your families and loved ones you are coming back. Don't get me wrong, kick the hell out of them over there, just be careful and safe when you can. And all of you 2531's ...don't lose the crypto !!
Ooh Rahh....Semper Fi.
SSGT Fecteau (1986 - 1997)
while watching the sunday evening news 2/23/03 i happend to see the portion of the broadcast in baghdad with the (ex)marine protesting the war the impending war.this guy was billed as a former marine. we all know there are no former marines. but that is not why i write this today. one of the greatest gifts our forefathers penned for us was the freedom of speech. their never was any guarantee that freedom of speech was always going to be intelligent when coming from some individuals. so i will defend this (ex)marines right to be a stupid as he desires. i say that only because had he done that here in the states his protest would have been a little more pallatable,but in baghdad? i have used the term ex marine twice now and i realize there are also no ex marines. however i feel as though him being in baghdad i must now turn my back on a brother, i do so with a great deal of sadness. not because he is protesting an impending war,but because it was done in baghdad. lest we not forget hanoi jane. i have tried to rationalize my brothers actions and cannot come up with any reasonable justification.
cpl. usmc 70-76
Sgt Grit -
A reply to Mr. Stephen L. Howell -
Sir, you signed our letter in Newsletter #38, as "Half the man of my Son". I think you are missing something here. I know you are proud of your son, just as the rest of us are proud of all of the young people who have taken up the Eagle, Globe & Anchor. But I see a young man who is the reflection of his parents. Thank you for supporting your Son and his decision. Thank you for understanding the need to defend our freedoms. Remember that we will all have your son and his comrades in our prayers in the upcoming weeks and months. You are not alone in your pride.
I salute you and your wife for bringing such a fine young man into the Corps. Take heart that he is in the greatest assembly of brothers (and sisters) that has ever been created (both living and dead). He will come home, a hero to all, and most especially someone who will be able to hold his head high and not worry if he did the right thing.
Cpl "Doc" Swickard, USMC
RVN class of 70
Sgt Grit, Watching CNN and I'm disturbed by the increase in anti war demonstrations. Truth be known, I don't want to lose a single Marine, soldier, sailor or airman for that lousy country but I know that when you put the uniform on, you agree to do your duty, like it or not. I need your help. I am a Vietnam Vet and I would like to stand with other Vietnam Vets along the route of an Antiwar demonstration. I want to stand there with other vets, silently, and hold signs that say, "If you must spit on America's warriors, spit on me. I'm experienced in rejection. Just ask your parents." In really small print, under the signs, "This time I spit back." Can any of your readers arrange this? East coast, I'm there. Tell me when and where to report for duty.
D.W. Porter USMC 8/61 - 8/65
In response to Dan Dye's letter American Courage News Letter. Dear Dan you sure hit the nail on the head with what you wrote, thanks for saying is so perfectly. I think all the protesters and anti war nuts just do get it until it hits home with them. It is then they scream bloody hell "Why didn't you do something?" I am sure no one else wants a war and want to see the loss of any life (except Sadam and his punk son), but if we don't act now then when? Do we wait until he uses his weapons against us or the innocent? Yup Dan you sure said it very well and I am so proud that you had the insight to see the picture so clearly.
As a Viet Nam Veteran I saw so much of death in Vietnam and would hate to have to do it all over again but, if given the chance to die honorably over there with our troops I would do so in a heart beat. I know many of the vets who are buddies so mine here feel the same way. Rather than grow old and just pass on I would give my left N--- to be there with a weapon in my hands and lead the charge into Iraq. God Bless all our troops and God help anyone "I" see spit on them when they come home!!!!
Yes, the time for being passive is over it is time to get off the pot and take the shot. America has never failed in it's battles and it won't now. France and Germany will learn the hard way when the terrorists hit them with their 911. They will then come screaming to us for help and maybe this time we should just smile and turn our backs. I really wish we would fight our wars like the Israelis do, they are ruthless and believe in an eye for an eye or several whichever feels right. Then and only then will we have the respect of those who want to destroy the American way of life.
Just my humble thoughts on the war and the way I see things. God Bless America and Our Brothers and Sisters going in Harms'way.
Donald A. Yoder, Sgt, USMC Disabled Ret. 63-71,
Viet Nam Veteran
"Once A Marine Always A Marine"
I sit and read all the various and as sundry reasons why we shouldn't go to war against Iraq. I watch the news every night on TV with the protestors claiming we have no need to destroy Iraq, her oil fields, her people, her infrastructure, etc. Yet, ask our World War II vets what happens when we "APPEASE" tyrants. Ask the elderly Brits, the Norwegians, the Belgians, the Poles, yes and even the French( though they have seemed to have forgotten) about appeasement. Ask particularly the Russians and the Jewish peoples about the cost of appeasement. This idiot whom all say is doing his best to make the UN inspectors happy has even killed his own people, and he will think nothing of killing thousands of Americans and or her allies. The French socialists will only think of us as the English do when they are subjected to overthrow, and not before hand.
John R. Wright,
Dear Sgt. Grit-American Courage Newsletter,
I really enjoy this newsletter. I'm writing to tell others that I feel that a lot of people don't appreciate our military and especially our marines. I say this because a lot of my friends don't appreciate them nor do they really understand what they do or even why they do it. When I turn on the television and see people protesting our military it really gets me down.
My husband is in the marines and I know how hard it is to deal with deployment at a time like this. My husband has been gone for a little while now and it doesn't get any easier. I find myself waking up in the middle of the night reaching to him but he's not there. I check the mail every morning hoping for a letter (I've got two so far). I also take my cell phone with me everywhere hoping for a call ( I've got four so far). A lot of people don't understand how hard it is to be a marine corps wife especially at times like this. I always find myself crying wondering were my husband is, what he's doing, or if he's alright. Although I am very positive in knowing that he is well taken care of by his fellow marines. It wasn't until I met my husband that I really understood that the marines are like a big family. They really do look out for each other and I know that they will take care of what they have to. They are very well trained and as my husband says "It will all kick in once we get over there." We are a newlywed couple and just got married 11 days before his deployment. I pray daily for my new husband and for all of the military personnel overseas in harms way. I completely understand that this is his job and he has to and also wants to do this for his country. I am very proud of him, support him, and write him daily. So If anyone knows any marines write and pray for them as much as possible because they really appreciate the fact that someone is thinking about them. Good luck to all marines, you are doing a great job.
A VERY CARING MARINE WIFE KC
I'd like to remind all contributors to this fine newsletter that every Marine has taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. One of the liberties ensured by the Constitution is the Freedom of Speech.
I may not agree with Sgt. Stewart or others whom present the argument that going to war in Iraq is somehow unjustified. In fact, I see Sgt. Stewart's viewpoint as short-sighted and myopic.
There is no need, however, to resort to name calling. We should embrace the fact that we live in a country where we can say what we want, even if our viewpoint is unpopular.
Calling names or flinging insults doesn't help to convince anyone that we are right and they are wrong. In a foxhole, I don't think it matters who is a Republican and who is a Democrat. Last time I checked, all Marines bled red.
When I was deployed with VMFA-323 in Asia during the first Gulf War, we lost our Gunny to the murderous bastards that allegedly belonged to the Phillipino Communist Party. He left behind a wife and two twin girls.
Ask me: do I give a flying fuck if my Gunny was a Democrat or a Republican? I was recently in Arlington Cemetery with my wife and father-in-law and couldn't help but get chocked up over the loss of our Gunny over a decade ago.
All Marines bleed red, whether they're light green or dark green, Republican or Democrat.
I highly suggest to all of this newsletter that we hold the personal insults in abeyance. The Marine Corps is different because we have respect for one another. Without that camaraderie and esprit-de-corps, we're no better than the worst unit in another branch of service.
I may not agree with what Sgt. Stewart has to say, but I will fight to the death his right to say it.
As to what Sgt. Stewart and his like had to say, I think Abe Lincoln spoke through the ages as to what we are confronting in Iraq:
"We have, as all will agree, a free Government, where every man has a right to be equal with every other man. In this great struggle, this form of Government and every form of human right is endangered if our enemies succeed. There is more involved in this contest than is realizedby every one. There is involved in this struggle the question whether your children and my children shall enjoy the privileges we have enjoyed."
--From the August 18, 1864 Remarks to the 164th Ohio Regiment Abe Lincoln
-Sgt. Beckstead, (active 88-93)
"Some worry of a 'wider war' if we attack Iraq. We are already in that wider war. The question is, will we recognize it now, or will we be forced to realize it later after more of us are killed? If a killer is coming after you, it's better to intercept him before he gets to your door."
1.) 57 is NOT too goddamned old.
2.) Saddam Hussein SHOULD be sent off to see the wizard.
4.) If protestors want to be human shields for Hussein, O.K.
"[W]e can't dodge history. History won't let us. We'll have to deal with it, do our best, lead for the good. Iraq is part of the pattern of world terror. To move against it is a gamble. But to do nothing is a gamble too. It's gambling on Saddam's future goodwill, a new reluctance on his part to use what he has, a change of heart, mind and character. Does that strike you as a safe bet? A good one? Me neither."
Once again I'm on the sidelines. Even more than I was 12 years ago. For Desert Storm I was at least working as a civilian for one of the DoD intelligence agencies and able to help. Now retired and having moved to southeastern North Carolina I've did what I can, joined the Coast Guard Auxiliary, and have put in MANY volunteer hours patrolling the port of Wilmington from the water. With the call up of the reserves and the substantial augmentation of the local USCG forces our patrols have been replaced with 24/7 patrols of people who carry guns. Well, while we can't patrol on the water, we can still volunteer to man the radios, tracking boards, and provide other services for which we are trained at the Marine Safety Office, Wilmington http://www.uscg.mil/d5/mso/wilmington/index.htm. By doing so we provide a force multiplier, allowing those on active duty to do what only they can. Many of us on the list want to do something to help. Perhaps this is something others could do also. If so, go to http://www.cgaux.org/cgauxweb/public/pubframe.htm and click on "Flotilla Finder to locate an auxiliary unit near you.
SSGT, USMC 64-70,
Viet Nam 66, 67, 68, 73 (Khe Sanh, Tet 68)
"If our goal is disarmament, we are likely to accomplish more by inspections than by war. The international community accomplished greater disarmament during seven years of inspections than it did during the Gulf War. With the presence of inspectors, Saddam will find it difficult and probably impossible to pursue weapons of mass destruction."
--Sen. Teddy Kennedy
This response to Capt. Carey: I have heard nothing of any dependents anywhere in CA being harassed. If you or any other Marine can substantiate and give me a location, I can mobilize a large number of us old-timers to take care of business.
SSgt. Moore, J.C. 2385599
Not as lean, twice as mean, ALL MARINE
Hey Sgt. Grit,
The way I see it, the more human shields the better. They wanna die for a good cause, and our Marines need a good Battle Sight Zero before we kick ass. So all you human shields, go ahead stand up, put you left arm up (fingers out straight), and snap your ugly mug to the right. Now align your self with that idiot to your right, and stay like that until you hear a loud assertive voice yell "Ready.....Front!" When you hear this you will all at once snap your ugly mug to the front, and bring your arm down. Now stand still and wait for your turn to help the best cause of all.....SUPPORTING YOUR COUNTRY!!
P.S. You'll know when you have helped....it should feel like a warm tingly feeling!
If anyone reports this sort of stuff actually happening anywhere in Southern California, please advise. I will personally go over and kick their butts into next year!!!! I live about half-way between 29Palms and Camp Pendleton..(with MCAS Miramar/MCRD within 2.5 hours. I've not heard of any such thing happening.
This area of So.Cal is loaded with Marine Veterans who would swiftly take care of any such stupid actions if we just knew about it!!!!!
Rancho Mirage CA
PS: to the Marine who was upset about lack of proper Military Honors for Veterans....have him contact Semper Fi #1 Memorial Honor Detail about how to start a Detail in his area. All it takes is a few Marines!!!!!
I am sorry to say that your survey is really STUPID! As an American citizen and an Ex-Marine, I believe that the USA should not go to war to fight 1) Israel's battles nor should we 2) take other peoples resource, i.e. their oil, without proper compensation. There is no oil problem in the world right now -- it is just that Bush and company want to guaranty that their coffers remain full in the future.
American lives should not be wasted in protecting the imperial ambitions of the state of Israel. The Europeans know that, they have a better understanding of the history of Zionism. Most Americans could probably not locate Israel on a world map nor spell the word 'Zionism' -- I am sorry to say. How many Americans know that the American tax payer is - giving - Israel 20 Billion dollars this year when we are cutting back on Medicare for our senior citizen, or our veterans from the Gulf war cannot get proper medical attention from the government that send them to fight Iraq the first time.
Stop reading the trash that our newspapers disseminate -- look behind the headlines and the propaganda.
Semper Fidelis (to the USA -- not to the state of Israel or the to the thieves in Washington)
"It would be peculiarly improper to omit, in this first official act, my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe." Washington continued: "No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than the people of the United States. Every step by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation seems to have been distinguished by some token of Providential agency."
As a mother of both a Navy sailor and a Lance Corporal in the Marines, both of whom have been sent to the war, I'm naturally very upset at the recent protests in our area. So I have decided to start my own "protest". I am installing a large sign saying "Support Our Troops" in our front lawn and tying yellow ribbons around every tree in the neighborhood. These items will come down only when our boys (all of them - not just mine) come home safely. We need to be proud of our sons and our husbands who are going to do what they have to do to protect the freedoms we take for granted here at home.
I was at a friend's house at the age of 10 when the car pulled up to tell her parents that her brother had been killed in Viet Nam after being there only 3 days. I pray that does not have to happen here. But if America backs down, we will be forever branded as "Yankee Cowards" and the respect America deserves will be lost forever. If we allow terrorism or despotism to live, the freedom our forefathers gave their lives for will die. We owe them something - the ones who died at Bunker Hill, Gettysburg, and on the beaches of Normandy. They made sacrifices so we could be free - the greatest nation in the world. And if we allow that to disappear, their scarifies were for nothing.
Nobody wants a war but sometimes we have to do what needs to be done. Freedom is not free. We need to support our troops. They do not make the policies, they are just carrying out the orders from the Commander-in-Chief.
Reunion - Colorado Old Glory Platoon 350, 1960.
June 14 & 15th, 2003
Visit reunion website: http://www.cogp.org
It is my considered opinion that if the U.S. Government really wanted to solve the problem in the Mideast with Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden they should properly equip One Good Marine in the proper attire and use the Marines God given ability as a 'rifleman'. One well placed shot from 500 yards (no scope, of course) would alleviate the need to take our Marines out of country to solve this terrorist issue with those two maggots. I served from 75-79 and would consider it an honor to go over there and showcase my ability with a 223 round at 500 yards.
I would like too ask you and your readers too do me a favor. You have followed my son from the day he enlisted in the Marine Corps until he graduated and many of your readers sent him support mail. We were even lucky enough too make your Sgt. Grit's Newsletter, Volulme 1, starting on page 62. Again, I thank you for that.
Well, my son is now sitting on the Kuwait/Iraqui border. He hasnt been able too tell me alot, but from what I have heard from other Marines here in Ft. Worth, they will be leap frogging across Iraq until they are able too take one of their Airbases. He is airwing, but we all know that grunts can't get anywhere without the choppers and we all know how easy a chopper gets shot down.
And a Marine is a Marine.
If you would publish this, I certainly would appreciate it, and ask your readers too write him and give him the support they gave him while he was in Boot Camp. That meant an awful lot too both of us and reminded me again of how we take care of our own!
His address is: L/Cpl. Charles A. Beltram, II USMC
Thanks! and Semper Fi.
Charles A. Beltram, SR
Viet vet 1970 - 1971
Let's pray for all of our Marines over there and all the other troops!
"Let's give the enemy a chance too die for his country!"
I would like to suggest a sign for the rally you are going to. It will really fry the peace-niks. "GIVE WAR A CHANCE"
Dear Sgt. Grit,
Since our son joined the Marines a year ago, I have had the pleasure of reading your newsletter. Thanks to each and everyone of you that take the time to express yourselves here - one of the many privileges we enjoy as Americans that has been paid for, time and again, by so many in our armed forces.
Our son (our only son) carries on a fine Marine tradition in our family. My father served as a Marine grunt during the Korean War era, I served as a WM from 1980-1986 with MAG-13, H&MS-13 and now our son carries on as a Marine grunt with the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines, Alpha Company. He left January 31, 2003 and is now somewhere in northern Kuwait. We were very fortunate in that he was able to come home for Christmas, as many families were not so lucky. I do not know when I will see my son again and the last moment I have in my memory is seeing him as he walked through the airport screening line in Salt Lake City when he left to go back to Twenty-nine Palms on January 2, 2003. There is not a moment that goes by that he is not in my thoughts and throughout the day he is in my prayers. At only 19 he is more adult than most people I work with. At 19 he carries the burden of not only a nation, but the world, upon his shoulders - something that many adults in this country have neither the desire nor the stomach to do. At 19, he faces the reality of life and death that most of us will never know. As a mother I feel as if my heart has been ripped from my breast. So far away, not knowing where he is or when he will come home. As a Marine, I know that he is now among a band of brothers and is doing what he wants to do -
I will not become embroiled in debates currently running rampant around me. Time is too precious and it solves nothing. The fact is that our men and women are there - period! The fact is that their families are all around us and they need our love and support - period!!!!! We all want our rights, yet we forget that these "rights" are really privileges - secured and protected for decades by brave men and women. Afforded to us by the sacrifice of not only by those who VOLUNTEER to protect our nation, but by their families left behind. When our son joined the Marines, we bought stickers for the car, my husband bought a "My Son Is A Marine" hat, and so forth. We wanted to show the world how proud we were. Now comes the time that we, all military families, dread - the reality of the price in serving one's country. At home we now have a Mother's Flag in our window, I wear my Mother's Flag pin with a piece of yellow ribbon everyday, and yellow ribbons are tied on the porch of our house. The pride is still there, stronger today than yesterday, but we live day in and day out with the unknown. We join the ranks with those families in the past that waited just as we wait today.
Thank you to the men and women who proudly served our nation in World War I, World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Somalia, Granada, Bosnia, the Gulf War and all those in-between. God Bless the mothers and fathers, husbands and wives, sons and daughters, etc. who also served, during those times, in the war of waiting. And may God Bless us again as so many new faces join the ranks of those who serve in the war of waiting.
"This may be the most difficult war we have ever fought, because the front line is less on a foreign battlefield than it is in our will. For a few, no amount of dead Americans will be enough to warrant an all-out war abroad and resolving the problem at home. But for the vast majority, who may soon see -- if there are more terrorist attacks -- just how serious the threat to our way of life has become, we are going to have to rally ourselves as our ancestors did during the American Revolution."
Dear Sgt. Grit,
A friend of mine introduced to your newsletter a couple of months ago. And I am so glad I was. It is so motivating to hear from Marines, Sailors and family of their stories and thoughts about military history as well as current events in military life. I am a retired Marine, WM type, who has never actually set foot in "harm's way" on the battlefields across this world that so many Marines have fought and trod. But one thing I do know for sure that is a common thread between us, is this. The Eagle, Globe and Anchor. And it is forever. I'll always remember the day I graduated from boot camp and could legitimately wear that meaningful emblem. As the honor grad of my platoon, I will never forget marching in front of the platoon in my dress blues and hearing from above the roar of the crowd of family and friends, one word - "Mommy". That was my son. He was five years old. It was the proudest moment in all my life. To have my son see me - as a Marine. A Marine of the United States of America's Marine Corps. I am sorry today that I went on and retired a few years ago. I've placed my name on the "hopeful" activation list - in case they need me. My uniform is ready. I am ready. My whole life it seems, has been one of service. I now serve with the volunteers of my local fire department. There's nothing quite like donning full SCBA and turnout gear to press forward into a house on fire to save someone or someone's pet, or to assist the removal of a human being from wreckage of an automobile accident. Marines and firefighters are of the same breed. We go in harm's way to protect the lives and property of others. That is the common thread of both throughout time. It is still evident today. Just look at the history of the United States and the wars/conflicts we've been in. Men and women of this country willingly and voluntarily went into the line of fire to protect and serve. Look at Sept. 11. Firefighters, police and emergency workers thought nothing of themselves as they plunged into burning infernos of the crumbled buildings in search of one human survivor. If ever there was a time that we need to "take care of business", that time is now. It pains me that there are those who listen to the roaring liberal media who stress that they need to see a "smoking gun" before taking action. Where were they on 9/11??? What further proof do we need that there are those in this world who want to maim, kill and destroy Americans? When are we going to stop them? When it's too late? Hopefully not. I say once you see the gun smoking, you will probably be dead. I am so proud of all the men and women I see everyday here at Cherry Point, in their uniforms, facing deployment from families to unknown places. I have not yet heard one person say they didn't want to go. In fact, some who are not going, keep stressing that they WANT to go. And too, I have never met a firefighter who has turned away the opportunity to "take the nozzle". In fact, you have to beat them to the nozzle first! This is courage, this is valor. This is knowing who you serve and what you believe in. I say let the military go in and do what they have been trained to do, and do it now. If the anti-war protesters and flaming liberals have a problem with that, then we'll discuss that with them when it's done! OOHRAH!!!
Cheryl "Silge" Holliday
GySgt (Ret) USMCR
It occurred to me this morning that the following would be too long for a readable bumper sticker, but I like the message it would leave.
"Sadam, 900 yards, M14, 3 clicks windage, problem solved....NEXT!!"
LCpl Villemure (1972-1975)
Sgt Grit -
To the person who wrote the following:
AT ALL TIMES, I FULLY SUPPORT OUR FELLOW WARRIORS IN THE MILITARY, BUT AM UNABLE AT THIS TIME TO SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT. I THINK HE IS PREMATURE IN HIS DESIRE TO START A WAR WITH IRAQ Â WAIT FOR A UNITED NATIONS RESOLUTION AND SANCTION. IF WE DON'T WAIT, WE WILL BE IN WORLD WAR 3 WITH ALL OF THE MUSLIM WORLD BEFORE WE KNOW IT. THIS POSSIBLE WORLD WAR WILL MAKE WW 2 LOOK LIKE WE WERE PLAYING IN A SANDBOX ON A WARM AND SUNNY SUNDAY AFTERNOON.
Do you really have any concept to what the extent World War II was? It doesn't sound like it. And do you really think that it is really ". . . his desire to start a war with Iraq"? You make it sound like the President is a bully picking a fight for absolutely no reason. Hmmm. . . that makes about as much sense as ". . . MAKE WW 2 LOOK LIKE WE WERE PLAYING IN A SANDBOX ON A WARM AND SUNNY SUNDAY AFTERNOON."
"Men who have offered their lives for their country know that patriotism is not the fear of something; it is the love of something."
"During the Vietnam War -- the clearest parallel to the present events -- the anti-war movement was organized by Communists who wanted the other side to win. The non-Communists who joined their marches, whatever their intentions, served the same practical end. America was divided at home and these divisions eventually forced its armies to retreat from the field of battle. As a result, the Communists won and proceeded to slaughter two-and-a-half million peasants in Indo-China between 1975 and 1978. This is the scenario that the people (mostly the same people) who are leading Saturday's protests hope to accomplish: the defeat of the West and the triumph of Islamic-fascism and its friends. ... Today's 'peace' movement -- the innocent-intentioned along with the malevolent rest -- is a fifth column army in our midst working for the other side. Already their leaders have warned that if the United States remains determined to oppose this totalitarian evil and stay its intended course, they will act within our borders to 'disrupt the flow of normal life' and sabotage the war. This is ultimately the most ominous threat Americans face. Abroad we can conquer any foe. The real danger lies at home." --David Horowitz
I was watching T.V. today and a young person asked the question "can you visualize world peace?". and a picture popped into my mind of a Marine Lance Corporal behind a burm with an M-16 and 18 rounds in a magazine and a resolve that was more than can be described. It dawned on me that i CAN visualize world peace.
SSGT D J Huntsinger
They Deserve Better, and Have the Right to Expect It Free speech and the right to peaceful public assembly are inalienable rights that we enjoy as a result of millions of young men and women's heed to the call of military service. Today, our military service members are again responding to their country's call. They do so from a variety of motivations, most prevalent of which is patriotism, a sense of national pride. They will do their job because they have been taught self-discipline. They have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States and all it stands for, to the death if need be, including those rights of free speech and assembly.
Exercise of our right to free speech should not be taken lightly without careful thought to the meaning and consequences of our words. War is the ultimate and final act in the political process of diplomacy. Debate, contemplation of divergent views, and passionate airing of our beliefs, are necessary and proper in our free society. These are the things that keep our country strong and healthy. Members of our armed forces forgo their freedom to participate fully in the political process. They give up their freedom, to defend our freedom.
The men and women of our armed forces are neither politicians nor diplomats. They should not be the subject, nor subjected to our exercise of free speech concerning war. They give up their freedoms, work long hard hours for below average wages, and ask little in return. They have earned respect and deserve better than taunts and verbal abuse. If we cannot express our gratitude for their service and sacrifice then say nothing. At the least they have the right to expect silence.
War is not a movie. Wounds are real - they hurt.
War is not a movie. Death is real - it is forever - there are no retakes. There is no emotion more powerful than when taking a human life, or knowing another is attempting to take yours - the scar is deep - it lasts forever.
Terry R. Funderburke