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I just finished reading the book "Chosin - Heroic Ordeal of the Korean War" by Eric Hammel (for about the 3rd time), and each time I read it I get a lump in my throat over the marvelous teamwork between the Air and Ground forces of the Corps. This account brings to light, about as well as anything, why Marine boot camp is as tough as it is. Drill Instructors have the tremendous responsibility of getting one ready for the rigors our magnificent Marines went through during the "Frozen Chosin" campaign. The sense of duty, integrity, and interwoven brotherhood that was so prevalent during that treacherous moment in Marine history started in boot camp and was the basic reason the majority of the Marines were able to survive.
Too, it brought out the stark realization why we have the Infantry, the Air Arm, the Artillery, the Medical Corpsman, and all the various specialties within those groups and the intricate teamwork that exists between them, because without them who knows what we would read of the history of that particular campaign. Very little time elapses in my life but what I don't think about my time in the Corps as setting the meter of my very existence. God bless the Marine Corps, Marines everywhere, and all who wear the uniforms of our beloved Country's military, especially those in harm's way.
Stan Brangham, former Marine Cpl
In This Issue
... you have a heartfelt combat story. (I would like to get more.) A great Korea story relating to the last letter.
An outstanding link to Fallujah, 2004 with gritty details. And of course more sparring about PI vs. SD towards the end.
Take a look at the very active Facebook page, growing rapidly. The new Sgt Grit blog will give you your DAILY Marine Corps fix of quotes, current news about Marines in Afghanistan and other Marine related stories.
To Sgt, Larry Dent, re: VMRG 152:
By God! It was good to see your post Sir. I proudly wear the patch of that unit that I purchased from Sgt. Grit over 2 years ago. I spent 15 months in country and flew on your big Ol' Herky Birds. Our Small formation of riggers and loaders, 1st Air Delivery Platoon, flew missions literally night and day with you. From the grinding nonstop all night long flare drops above the DMZ (ducking and dodging SAM's though rare was NOT unknown), to pushing out 250,000 pounds of anything we could strap to a pallet and fix a 'chute to, I know from up close and personal how we supported out brothers in the field.
My experience in the months long resupply to Khe Sanh, the landings at Dong Ha, Phu By and Chu Lai delivering loads and for evacuation of wounded and dead, landing on those dusty red-dirt runways barely long enough to get the bird in and out, I defy anyone to say we weren't Marines supporting Marines and doing our duty!
John Wagner, L/CPL 2298163
Am I the only AMTRACER
SSGT BROWN 1974-1982 Am I the only AMTRACER that reads Sgt Grit letters? never see anything about them.
Named That Hill Properly
Enjoyed the article on the Rockpile. I was with Fox 2/9 and in 1968 Fox Co 2/9 did their time on the Rockpile and when you looked out, you could see Dong Ha Mountain. I remember in 68 when they had a B52 strike on the north side of that mountain, when the smoke cleared we took a platoon and swept the side of the mountain. Sure were some big asz bomb craters. They sure named that hill properly. Took hours to dig a fighting hole.
SGT BILL MADDEN (aka MADDOG)
2nd plt 3rd. sqd (67-68)
Not A Good Day
If that was your story pertaining to tossing grenades that never went off.. with tape wrapped around them I have a good story for ya..
We got hit by a couple to 4 g--ks while on patrol one day over there.. and I had a similar experience..
My point man got his safety shot off his M 16 so he was out of commission and in a deadly spot for sure..
2nd and 3rd man back got hit by the g--ks machine gun
2nd man back got it thru the front of his helmet so bad that his helmet was imbedded into his skull.. (killed immediately)
2rd man back got hit so many times the rounds actually kept his body standing till he pointed the gun at me... once that happened he flopped to the ground / no noise coming from him at all... so I knew it wasn't good.
while they were hittn those guys up I managed to dive off the path and got as close to the dirt as I could to avoid getting hit by the g--k rounds which were now piercing the leaves all around my head and body...
I stayed down and waited hoping to catch em changing belts or something..
The second they stopped shootn / probably changing rounds I ripped a grenade off me and thru the thing into where I saw the rounds coming from.
I thru the thing so hard I heard a loud clang as if it hit their gun.
the grenade never went off..
so I got up just far enough to spray 20 rounds into the same bushes..
all went quiet... so I called a corpsman up for the guy hit just in front of me not knowing if he was dead or alive...
corpsman comes running down / kneels down next to the guy that got hit bad with his back to the bushes where the gook rounds were coming from.
just about the time he kneeled down he took a single shot thru the back of his head by the g--ks..
I'll never forget that day cuz I felt that his death was my fault / flat out / cuz I called him up...
I empted one more mag into the bushes and that was the end of the firefight...thank God.
I later figured out that because of the fact that I was half scared to death at the time I thru the grenade that I must have forgotten to pull the pin.
I was lucky it wasn't tossed back at me.
All I can figure is that when I threw it into the bushes and heard that loud 'clank' sound I'm thinking maybe it hit I must have been dead on and it must of hit the machine gun they were using and somehow made it inoperable.
all said and done that day..
2 USMC KIA
not a good day
matter of fact.. it wasn't a good month.
just about every patrol that went out that month / a couple 3 guys were gettn killed.
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Rear Sight Assembly
Hi Sgt. Grit,
I got my Marines Magazine, The Corps Official Magazine, and enjoyed every page of the mag. until I got to the back page, here is the Marines Silent Drill Team all looking their best, I have a great deal of respect for these skilled and true Marines. But if you look at the first Corporal in line an check his M1 riffle you will see that it is missing the rear sight assembly, it is a great disappointment to me since I handled one while I was in the Corps. I cannot understand how he could have passed an inspection or how it even got past the person taking the photo or the Managing Editor. This should have never happened or even been published, it looks like more than one person was asleep on their watch.
Jim Murrell, Cpl. USMC 1611002 (An old Marine)
As related in an email, I sent to the newspaper site, that was returned, think that book you wrote, TO THE LAST ROUND, gives it like it was and their remembrances. They gave the opposition all they could handle, and more, & stood well for ALL the troops in country. And kept Seoul out of their hands, for that time. And to all, living & who paid the price, SEMPER FI !
I was in a unit Charlie Co., 1st. Batt., 1st. Reg., 1st. Marine Division.
The day of the 22nd. April, we were in reserve and about 10:30 that night we saddled up and were put on trucks, driven all night into the middle morning, about 15 miles North & West of Chunchon. Disembarked and mounted hill 307, written in history as Horseshoe ridge. Our casualty rate was between 15 & 20, KIA,s & 110 WIA,s in the company, with about a 60% rate for the company alone, and we had the whole 1st. Battalion with us in that encounter, but the enemy, kept repeatedly attacking at the top of the hill for a total of about 14 hours. It was said by a Major who flew over the area from the 11th. Marines, (Artillery) in a spotter plane the next day, that there were about 2,400, KIA,s in front of our lines, This encounter is covered in Vol. 4, Marines in the Korean War, by the Historical Division, of the Marine Corps.
Riding up toward the mountain, we saw during the night into the next morning ROK's heading south, that had left their position, and has been related they were the 6th ROK Division. And they were subsequently, partially stopped on the road we went up on by the Provost Marshall's unit and other Marine MP's as approximately the bridge that crossed the river at the 38 parallel. And the portion of your writing that got my attention, is on page 161 relating to the 6th collapsing, and 27th Brigade plugging the gap. Not knowing the distance from where WE were to Kapyong, It leaves the question of how long a front from west to east, that the 6th ROK division had to cover?? As, related we were in their midst from night to morning, and as has been related in other places, they were not letting the grass grow under their feet.
In April 2006, Yongok Ahn, and Tom took me direct to that hill, as easy as if I could give someone directions to the nearest 7/11. They all went out to give me that opportunity, and the words, 'Thank You' are not enough, and eloquent, I'm not.
If you have any info., concerning the distance the 6th had to cover, that could probably enlighten me somewhat. And/or the distance from Kapyong to N/W of Chunchon, that also would enlighten, Even 'Tomas' could fill us in on that question.
THANK YOU, &
Note: When you get a chance to talk to a Korea Marine, do it. Korea was a nasty cold place. I have talked to many. Fascinating stories. I wish more of you would send stories. Semper Fi Sgt Grit
Day at the Range
Sgt. Grit, Here's another Camp David photo. A day at the Range with President Bush taken June 1989. I'm the one holding the shotgun shells for the President. Funny thing is then Secretary of Defense Cheney was there also, glad I stood behind him!
Would A S/Sgt. Lie To A Pvt?
Joseph O'Neill -- I/3/2/2 Aug & Sept of 1956
In the summer of '56 I/3/2/2 and H/3/2/2 boarded the APA36 to head to the Med. I was a boot Pvt. in I Co. There was a S/Sgt in H Co that was from my home town. We knew each others' family. While we were at sea we ran into each other. We spoke of the folks back home had quite a visit.
The next time I saw him we talked about my Sister, he wanted to know if she still worked at Prudential Ins. Co. I said yes and then asked if I knew what their Logo looked like. Sure it has a picture of the Rock of Gibraltar in it. He then told me there was a huge neon sign of Prudential on top of it that could be seen out at sea at night for miles. I looked for it or days....
A few years later I joined the MCL and the S/Sgt was now a Retired Gunny who belonged to the same Detachment I joined. We kept the brothers at the club bar regaled with sea stories of our time aboard ship and in port. Of course he told everyone about me going topside at night to catch a glimpse of that "Large Sign". Now I ask you "Would a S/Sgt lie to a Pvt.?"
I think of that Med Cruise and chuckle quite often....
I had the honor to serve with CSSBI, CSSC 113 during my 2nd tour in Iraq. Most of us were Reservists from units around the country. A former platoon mate of mine recently posted a link to this article on his facebook page and I wanted to share it.
It's a very poignant article written by our company's XO, Captain Sheppard. It pulls no punches and describes the battle of Fallujah in November of 2004 in gritty detail. As a 1341 Heavy Equipment Mechanic I was "in the rear with the gear" at Camp Taqaddum while this battle raged, however I am HONORED to be able to say that I served with and personally knew many of the Marines mentioned here along with many, many others.
Greater men I have never, nor will ever know than those I served with.
Article Link is as follows:
1998 - 2006
To the young Marine who quoted the dress code . I wore a Handlebar moustache in Nam and so did my co Gunny . No one said anything about it. GySgt Lou Diamond wore a full stach and goatee for years. I belong to the Marine Corps league and a lot of the guy's wear beards and goatees. So Semper Fi. and I proudly wore my uniform then and now. Been almost 50 years since I first put it on.
ITR San Onofre, 1969 I must agree, that has got be the most grueling experience of all times. While on the bivouac I remember that myself and the other 2 Marines in my fighting hole fell asleep. To my surprise what woke us up were tarantulas. Must have been hundreds. Our memories are what make us ALWAYS MARINES.
thanks for the scuttlebutt, I'll be looking forward to it. cpl. gp frakes , danang, chu lai, phu bai, and hue city. 1966-67
Had my boot in P.I. but first in the south Bronx in 44, so P.I. like falling off a log. Then jejune, and winter gear for our trip to a beautiful island with palm trees and dancing flame throwers. Not to Alaska like we thought. World war 2 guys...were dying everyday...soon we'll be history.
Sgt Grit I have to tell all of our Vietnam vets we did not lose that war our politicians lost it. We signed the peace treaty President Nixon pulled us out to early we won every battle we kicked their butts every time we met them. I served in my Corps from 1960-64 was in Nam in 63- 64 with the 1st maw it was my best tour love my Corps.
cpl jim lindquist (1931501)
21 months ago ,, I lost my Marine grandson. I wear his Marine memorial patch over my left breast on my motor cycle jacket. My club was at a toys for tots run, and the president of the Philadelphia, Pa. chapter of Leathernecks M.C. spotted it and pinned the fallen heroes pin beside it. Thank you Nails, and Leathernecks M.C. we truly do take care of our own.
Semper Fi, Gunny
Sgt. GRIT, My young asz was saved by Medivac chopper 2 September 1967, WIA by an 82mm mortar round. And many times by fastmovers and at "DANGER CLOSE." They are my "HEROS."
Semper Fi, A. Sunny Sundberg
Iwo Jima, 65 Years Old
65 years ago this month, Marines assaulted a volcanic island which would have passed through the ages, under normal circumstances, unnoticed.
But on this day, these young men poured onto the beach to face small arms fire, fixed machine gun fire coordinated into a grid work which covered every square meter of ground and 320 mm spigot mortars, the size of a 55 gallon steel drum time fused to ignite before hitting ground. Nowhere to hide; the luck of the draw; FUBAR. Sgt. John Basilone of Raritan N.J. CMH recipient would be KIA along with thousands of his comrades.
It was incredible feats of courage, like this, that I was raised hearing that caused me to enlist as soon as possible.
A few months after Iwo I was born (June 26th; same as "Chesty" Puller). 17 years later I was one of "Culbertson's Turds" on P.I.
Footnote: I was most impressed by the "undress blues"; short sleeve trop shirt, blue trousers. This is how "strac" captain with gleaming "whitewalls" appeared at Whitehall St. to administer oath of enlistment after warning us beforehand it would be our last opportunity to back out. Simply Forgetus ha ha ha.
L/cpl. Rapuano A.M.
Plt.150 Jul./Sept.1962 "Paradise Island" S.C.
19 FEBRUARY 65th ANNIVERSARY of the BATTLE of IWO JIMA
The Marine invasion of Iwo Jima (1st US attack on the Japanese Home Islands) began on February 19, 1945. It was known as Operation Detachment. The Marines were charged with the mission of capturing the airfields on the island which up until that time had harried U.S. bombing missions to Tokyo. Once the bases were secured, they could then be used in the impending invasion of the Japanese mainland.
B-24 Liberators flying from the Mariannas bombed the island for 74 days prior to the invasion. Naval ships consisting of 6 battleships, 5 cruisers and many destroyers of Task Force 54 provided a 3 day pre-landing bombardment. Intelligence sources estimated that the island would fall in a week's time. Unfortunately, no one knew at the time that island had been heavily fortified. There were vast bunkers, hidden artillery and 11 miles of interconnecting tunnels.
The battle produced some of the fiercest fighting in the Pacific Campaign of WWII. Besides the fortifications, the inhospitable terrain consisting of volcanic ash made walking difficult and building foxholes for protection impossible. Night raids by the Japanese and hand-to-hand combat were common occurrences. The bunkers were connected to the tunnels in such a way that even after the use of flamethrowers and grenades, the Japanese soldiers were able to return to the bunkers and resume their fighting. The Marines literally won the 8 square mile island, inch by bloody inch.
Of the approximate 20,000 Japanese troops on the island, less than 1,000 were taken prisoner. Most Japanese fought to the death or chose ritual suicide instead of surrendering.
Of the 110,000 Marines and Navy Corpsman who took part in the battle, 6,821 were killed (this included over 300 Navy Corpsman) and 19,217 were wounded. The number of American casualties were greater than the total Allied casualties at the Battle of Normandy on D-Day.
On March 26, 1945, the island of Iwo Jima was declared secure ... 37 days after the battle began. Henceforth, Iwo Jima would appear on the list in Marine Corps history alongside such places as Belleau Woods, Chosin Reservoir and Guadalcanal.
Twenty-seven Medal of Honor medals were awarded for actions during the battle. Of these, 14 were awarded posthumously. Marines earned 22 of the medals, Navy Corpsman earned 4 and a Naval officer from the USS LCI won the other. Of the total number of Medal of Honor medals awarded to Marines in WWII, 27% of those were awarded to the Marines who fought on Iwo Jima.
By their victory, the 3rd, 4th and 5th Marine Divisions and other units of the Fifth Amphibious Corps have made an accounting to their country which only history will be able to value fully. Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island, uncommon valor was a common virtue. Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, U.S. Navy
I really like the ink page and seeing everyone's tattoos. I got my first tat before heading to Desert Storm. While there, my tank commander, Sgt JD Hawthorne, was KIA 27/Feb/1991 outside Kuwait City. With our 19th anniversary fast upon us I finally got my tribute tat done. I had the artist put a CVC helmet on the battlefield cross instead of a Kevlar since we were M1A1 tankers.
I hope you like them!
After Flying All Day
Having had the privilege to serve our country in RSVN in 1964 and 1965, I consider my tour as a helicopter crew chief on CH34s to be an honor. Not only did we take the Grunts into places they could not have gotten to otherwise, we resupplied them and brought out their wounded and deceased brothers. After flying all day we worked into the nights performing maintenance on our H34s to have them flight ready at first light the next day so we could do it all over again.
Most days, we lived off 'C' rations because we were not back at DaNang for a hot meal. Our guys on the ground did a great job and truly seemed to be glad to see our birds when we arrived to pull them out! I'm sure for the most part, the Grunts who used our services knew, without a doubt, that our jobs were just as important (and dangerous) as theirs. I never once heard that I was just an "Air Winger" from any of them.
Cpl USMC 1961 - 1965
Chi Com POW
I noticed with interest the newsletter item "Three Wars" where GySgt John D. Foster mentions his association with MGySgt Len Maffioli. If I'm not mistaken, this is the same "SSgt (E-5) Len Maffioli" who I first met in '51 or '52 when he reported in to the Marine Corps Guided Missile Test Unit, Naval Ordnance Test Station, China Lake CA. The story of his escape from the Chi Com POW Camp preceded him and I, among many other young Marines there, looked up to him with awe and great respect.
If he or GySgt Foster reads this, please accept or pass on my best regards. I noted also that he served with the 1st Tank Bn in Vietnam. When I was commissioned in 1955, I became a tank officer and served in the 3rd Tank Bn during the Vietnam era. Quite a step down from the Terrier Anti-Aircraft Guided Missile ordnance to the 90mm tank gun!
LtCol Everett Tunget
Couldn't Find It
I served with the 1st Marines in Korea as a field telephone linemen with the 4.2 Co. 1951-52. at the Punch Bowl. On Christmas day I got word that my wife gave birth to a boy. Being a proud father I gave out some cigars. I had a good friend that was a cook so I gave one to him. The next time I talked to him he told me that he was cooking stew while smoking the cigar and when he was about 1/2 done with it he couldn't find it and he never did. [ Where did it go?] All we could think of it made the stew better. After we got home we only lived about a 100 miles apart so we would get together from time to time, every time we did something would be said about the cigar. Sorry to say George passed away about a year ago but I will never forget him.
Sgt. Kenneth Cox U.S.M.C.
To Find Out Later
Like Bill McLean, I was also stationed in 1st Mar Div area, with HQ Btty 11th Marines Motor T. Sgt Grit, I believe this was also your T.A.O.R. I also worked with the army searchlight Btty there. The army would sometimes come over to the motor pool and ask if we could give them a hand moving equipment, or unloading equipment for them, with our 5 ton wrecker, La La. One of your LTs. gave me a bottle of Vodka, for helping him one day, as soon as I finished up with him, I went back to motor pool, deadlined my truck, and drank it, only to find out later, that I was supposed to stand guard duty that night. SEMPER-FI David Creighton
Yep, we were on the same compound. 11th Motors was across the hi- way, 1st Recon the other direction across a few rice paddies, Division HQ across the road and up the hill, medical battalion and heavy lifting helicopters down the road. And of course "Dog Patch" further down the road and Dai La pass the other direction.
That Is The Way
RE: Air Wingers vs. Grunts
Just my two cents: My step-Father was an 81mm mortar platoon commander in Korea. I remember him remarking once that as he watched Marine aircraft strafe enemy positions he said to himself, "Now, THAT is the way to fight a war." Subsequently, he enrolled in the Marine flight program and spent the next 20 some years flying jets. So, I would suggest that before someone look down on Air Wingers, they might wonder if that particular Air Winger has already "been there and done that".
Ran cross country in high school four years. Stood on the yellow foot prints at Parris Island April 5 1967. To Second Battalion, Platoon 263. Senior Drill Instructor SSGT. Fish takes the herd out for its first run. When the herd returned lots of recruits were in really tough shape, throwing up etc. I was breathing a little heavy but not sweating much, at least not enough for my beloved senior DI.
"WHAT is your problem worm!?? WHY aint you sweatin maggot!?? DO YOU have some bodily disfunction!??" Then I said it, ( Sir the private likes running.) I don't have to tell any of my fellow Marines what happened next. He let me stop sometime around June.
Cpl. Jim Z. 2357294 3/9 RVN 68-69
I Called Him Back
I had a customer that left a voicemail one morning before we were open and expressed his "opinion" about the additional cost for larger size clothing. He was upset that we charge more for XXL sizes, as that was the size he needed.
I called him back the following morning, only to reach his voicemail at his office. I left him a message telling him why we have to charge more for larger sizes just like any other retailer does & that vendors charge us more for the extra material put into the larger sizes, etc. I left him all of my info incase he wanted to call me back...and he did! He was very pleased and excited that I had even returned his call! He said that when he called, his day did not get off to a good start so he was kind of venting when he left the message. He didn't think we would even want to do business with him after that!
He could not believe that I (or we here at Sgt. Grit) would call someone back after they complained about something we do on a regular basis. He wanted me to tell Sgt. Grit that I should get a meritorious promotion and become SSgt! He was very happy with the way we run things here at Sgt. Grit and that every company should take some advice from us! Once we were done with our conversation, he didn't even mention any more about why we charge more for the larger sizes...his "venting" was acknowledged and it made him realize that there are companies that really care about their customers!
Sgt Grit Marine Corps Specialties
The time has rolled around again for MACS-9 to hold another reunion. The reunion this year will be held at the Grand Plaza Hotel in Branson, Missouri. The dates are 8 -12 September, 2010. This will be our fifth reunion, and hopefully will be the best.
It is truly amazing how it seems as though it were just yesterday or last week that we were in service to our country instead of forty-five years ago. The guys just pick up as though those years have disappeared. Conversations and memories are just like it was just yesterday that we were together. I only wish that all Marines will have the opportunity to attend a reunion to make those contacts that we once took for granted. Too many are leaving us to guard the Gates above, sometimes too early.
All former MACS-9ers are welcome. Our Squadron was formed in October, 1963 - October, 65 after returning from Chu Lai, or more accurately Ky Ha, Vietnam.
The contact person for the reunion is:
Thomas Boyle, Sgt of Marines
621 34th St NE
Cedar Rapids, IA 52402-4221
email: tboyle621 @ aol .com
VMF/VMA-311 "TOMCATS" Reunion
Chattanooga Choo Choo Hotel, Chattanooga, TN
8-12 September 2010
Contact: Jim Galchick, 330-337-9383,
1290 E. 12th st., Salem, OH 44460
jgalchick @ neo .rr .com
Web site: www.vmf-vma-311reunion.org
With regret I wish to report the passing of another 2 war Marine. On January 1 of 2010, Colonel Ferdinand S. Aramovich, 88 (Rockford, Illinois) made his final beachhead. He served during WWII and after surviving the Okinawa battle, was part of the first/last contingent to return to China. He was proud of being a 'China Marine". He was later recalled to Korea and took part in the actions related to the breakout from the Chosin Reservoir. Subsequent to his active service he became a member/supporter of the USMC Reserve program and was personally responsible for the recruitment of many past Marines.
Sgt - 1954 - 1962
Girls Kept Asking
Back in 1956 I was an usher in my sister's wedding. I borrowed a set of dress blues, had them altered and looked like a million dollars. At the wedding everyone knew who I was even though it was the first time in 7 years that I wore a uniform at home. At the reception that evening I traded the "blues" for a tuxedo. A big, big mistake. No one knew who I was and most of the single girls kept asking my sister where the Marine was.
Looking back I wish I had worn the uniform more often. It was not that I didn't care, but travelling to New York from Cherry Point, NC by car took almost 11 hours. Uniforms were not comfortable plus your uniforms looked like h&ll when you got home.
Jack Nolan 1131869 Staff Sgt 1950-1957
PI vs. SD
Sgt. Grit, Sonny said the ones who went to San Diego were the handsome ones. Tell him the ones who went to Parris Island were the tough ones. He can call us "Devil Dogs". All in good spirit. We are all Marines.
Mark Ryalls, 1968-1972, Sgt.
I have been told that P.I. is the "real Marine Corps". Both my late wife and my 1st born son are/were P.I. trained.
Huh, I was told the soft skinned city boys went to the easy boot camp and was issued sun glasses and tanning lotion and it was located in San Diego,
SONNY HAYES 76-91
A Marine is a Marine no matter where he or she was trained, we are a family and only a few can be part of this family! But it was funny but only mixed up the good looking Marines came from P.I.
Sgt PT Gruber
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Select Your Quote- Worn Flag T-shirt
Welcome Home Marine, Job Well Done.