Following up on comments/pic from Sgt. Whipple and Cpl. Griffin, I've attached additional current pictures of the 3rd Bn. barracks at P.I. My wife and I visited in early March of this year and were sad to see the ongoing demolition of my home during July-October of 1964 as member of platoon 366. Can't help but remember our junior drill instructor, Cpl. Odachowski, who frequently shared such critical wisdom as "If the Marine Corps wanted you to have a wife, it would have issued you one", when he wasn't overseeing endless bends and thrusts... a special man and I hope he is alive and well today.
Brian Farney, Sgt.
2nd Battalion Barracks
In regards to the posting in the newsletter of April 6th. The writer that stated that in 1959 that 2nd Battalion barracks were brick. I went through Parris Island recruit training in January, February, and March of 1966 (Platoon 215). The picture of my wife and myself was taken in from of my barracks on the windy graduation day of 9 March 1966. As you can see from the picture, the barracks of 2nd Battalion were wood with what appeared to be either wood or asbestos siding.
Also, as to Yellow Footprints. After being herded off of the bus around midnight and into Receiving while being yelled and screamed at the entire time, there could have been yellow, red, purple or any other color footprints on the deck, and I don't think anyone getting off of that bus would have noticed them.
Cpl Bob Mauney
Tough Guy Pose
So I thought about it and decided to send the picture in along with a few questions for my brother Jarheads, but I won't dare ask this of my sister Jarheads. Does your uniform still fit you? The other night the wife and I were going through some clothes in the attic for AM Vets and I came across this blouse. Not sure why now but I did not keep a lot of my dress uniforms. Stupid, I know but it's too late now. I did keep one short sleeve and one long sleeve blouse and all of my cammies, which have long since rotted away. I gave away all the rest of my uniforms except the wool overcoat and rain coat but my nephew asked if he could borrow them for a Halloween party years ago and the sh-thead claimed he lost them. Man, was I ever p-ssed. Anyway, my wife suggested I try the blouse on and told me to give her a "tough guy" pose and before I could finish getting ready she snapped the picture. We took one where I actually got all the buttons made but it was unbecoming to say the least. I'm 54 now and somewhere around 190 lbs, but I can't understand why it does not fit because I was 180 lbs when I got out in 1985 but of course I was fairly solid and in shape then. Ahhhh the good ole days! I nearly hurt myself taking the blouse off due in part to my bad shoulders. I wish I least had a barracks cover or p-ss cutter to put on my big-azs bald head. Can't wear a high and tight anymore. Best I could do with a bald head is a low and loose. There's a guy I work with who never served in the military who wears a high and tight. Cruel joke huh?
Lima 3/8, Weapons Plt
The Very Best Brotherhood
I was visiting my 107 year old grandma last Sunday in her elder care facility when a couple in their 80's stopped by to say "hi" to grandma. They saw me wearing one of my Sgt Grit USMC t-shirts and said "semper Fi". Turns out they were both Marines during the Korean War; in fact they met, fell in love, and married each other during their time in the Corps. We talked Marine stuff for about 10 minutes, shook hands and hugged, and they went on about their business. My grandma just sat there patiently as we did our Marine thing. Meeting and visiting with those two Korean War Marines just made my whole week brighter. We belong to the very best brotherhood in the whole world, there just is none better.
Thank you, my brothers and sisters!
1969 - 1971
Tamales And Point Arguello
To Cpl Sadowski's recent post on Dave Schual passing. Sorry to hear that our numbers are slowly reporting in for their last duty station. The good Lord will take care of him standing post similar to Surf Gate on a foggy lonely post no bigger than a phone booth.
Our first duty station was Marine Barracks, Point Arguello, and it was a short lived barracks from around 1958 to 1964, where many of us boot recruits received our introduction to the Marine Corps. It also was a haven for old stalwarts who taught us on how to tailor our tropical uniforms, spit and polish leather gear, hand waxing and buffing the tile floor, and how to stretch our covers giving the sea going dip on our frame caps. Most of us only spent 18 Months there before shipping out to First Mar Div, Camp Pendleton, CA.
Talking to Fred Briuer, he said that you stopped by his mother-in-law's house on liberty once to eat tamales in LA. Fred retired from the Corps of Engineers and living in Mississippi. Others I remember were PFC March, Bill Kirchoff, Coffee, Dolan, Dillard, Monday, Hadel, and Staff Sergeant Meeks was our section Staff NCO. Private Hadel was the only four year private that I know of.
Fond memories of the Point; living, dinning, medical on Vandenberg Air Force Base and how one could not remember our beer bust at the Sudden Ranch.
God, Country, Corps: Semper Fi.
Lost Mine On Hill 37
My dad passed in 2004 and I was cleaning out his gun cabinet when I came across the Zippo lighter I had given him after returning home from boot camp and ITR in 1969. I had forgotten about it. I'm sure I bought it and one other identical one at the PX at MCRD in San Diego. He obviously never used it as it is new in the box. I had mine engraved at Danang PX, but later lost it I think on Hill 37. While I really regret losing mine, I'm glad to have this one and a few other mementos of my time in the Corps.
Mosquitoes And Sand Fleas
I entered PISC on Sunday April 20 1951. We got off the bus and went straight to the old wood barracks. [Plt 251 1st BN, no yellow footprints] Our SDI S/Sgt McClary? took us to the back of the barracks near the swamp to let the mosquitoes & sand fleas 'have their dinner and then he proceeded to let us know that we were "lower than Whale Sh-t and that most of us would leave Parris Island feet first. We went to evening chow & were the first Plt in the mess hall. When the other Plts started coming in with shaved heads, someone remarked "thoe guys must of really F-cked up". Boy did we get a lesson the next day.
I would like to hear from Marines that were in Plt 251 and the DI's. And also from Marines that were in the following units... Wpns 2/2, Oct 1951 - June 1953... H&S CO 2nd Marines, June 1953 - April i954.
Roy Lively, Cpl
I Was Wanted Outside
I just read with interest the letter from Dave Brown (Sgt Grit 4-7-16) about his time with MACS-7. I was also with MACS-7 first at Chu-Lai in '66 then I was sent to the Detachment at Phu-Bai as an Air Controller/NCOIC in July '66. I was there along with W.O. Frank Moore. (knew Frank as a S/Sgt with MACS-1 in Yuma AZ along with then Lt. Abernathy) Capt. Pelley and later Capt John Abernathy. At the time I was the only Sgt E-5 in the Corps who had been school trained as a GCI Air Controller having attended Air Controller School at FAWTC Pt. Loma, Ca. as a Cpl. in '65 while with MACS-1 in Yuma. Promoted to E-5 in late '65. I received orders to Vietnam in Feb '66 and arrived in country in June '66 and reported in to MACS-7 at Chu-Lai mid June '66. I was only stationed there "On the Hill" for about 6-7 weeks till I was sent up to the detachment at Phu-Bai around the middle of Aug '66. He's right, we were right across from the main Air Terminal for Phu-Bai and we ate all our meals at the "C" Med. Batt. mess hall and our off hours were at the Officer/SNCO club there, and when there were open hot showers. I do recall going over to the Army Base (8thRRU) and enjoyed there clubs... complete with slot machines and Vietnamese waitresses. And we did "mid-night request ion" 5-6 of their "Hollywood" style beds complete with mattresses and sheets, but I don't recall ever being banned from the base.
I promoted to S/Sgt E-6 in Jan '66 and on Feb 26th we were mortared along with the entire air field and Capt. Abernathy and I were both wounded. After spending the rest of the night over at "C" med getting stiched up, I returned to our area around 6:30 am and hit the rack. A couple of hours later one of the Sgt's that was there with me woke me up and said I was wanted outside "RIGHT NOW"! I pulled on my utilites and shower shoes and walked out. There was Gen Victor Krulack and all his staff waiting for me to fall in so he could pin a purple heart on me. Dave were you there? I spent the next 2 weeks going over to "C" med twice a day getting a shot of penicillin and a gama globin shot, first in one cheek, then the next. Around the middle of March I was sent back down to Chu-Lai where because of my injuries all I could do was hold down a stool at the SNCO club and returned to Conus in late May '67. Since I had 62 days left on my 2nd enlistment I received orders ro a reserve MACS unit at So. Weymouth, MA. and on Aug 15th '67 I left the Corps to begin another career as a California Highway Patrolman. I reported in to the CHP Office in Oceanside which became my home for the next 29 years, retiring in 1996...
Gerald (Jerry) Caughman
S/Sgt 1820XXX USMC
CHP Retired ID 6264
Two Sheets And A Blacket
In 1961, we were one of the very first of PI boots to use the Brick 3rd Bn buildings and were constantly reminded of the privilege of doing so. We were ordered to keep it "NEW" for the duration of our "Stay." This meant meticulous inspections at any and all times. It gave new meaning to "Grab two sheets and a blanket." Bent over doing endless double times were the norm. I tried to share many memories with another found brother of Plt# 339 when looking for my grad book, a desperate search made for many years to provide records to my son, the last of the three generation Marines in our family. (My Dad of WW II Guadalcanal and the Pacific Theatre; me July 7, 1961 to Sept 27, 1961; and my son SD Plt # 1050, 1995.) I did so to clarify my identity to copy any photos in the Grad Book that were me, starting with the dress blues photo/portrait. He got quite upset at having to deal with the memories I sought to share with him, saying he just couldn't take them. I haven't written him since.
I must again ask anyone from Plt #339 of the 336 series to please contact me to make arrangements to at least get the Dress Blues photo to give my son. Service dates are above and there is a correction on the DIs. HDI, S/Sgt Rushing, ADI's Sgts Long and Patterson. I had lost memory of when our platoon photos were taken. It turned out that it was long before graduation, which meant not medals of any kind and we wore trops and tie with p-ss cutters, as I remember them being called.
I would like to try and see if Sgt. Patterson is still with us for I do have a profound personal duty to thank him.
We only had the yellow shirts and red shorts (Mickey Mouse uniforms) for PT. Our utility trousers were not allowed to be bloused nor was any starch allowed to be done to our covers. We also had to take those lousy salt tablets and abide by the green, yellow, red and black flags during training. We could NOT roll our sleeves up, mostly wearing white T-shirts instead of utility shirts. There's many other differences in what we were doing versus today's Corps. What I wish we still had ready access to is the logo for the 2nd MarDiv as "The Silent Second," rather than in equal conjunction with "Follow Me." Many doctors have asked me what that meant as I have a few shirts and caps with that logo. My Dad was at Guadalcanal so I understand, from the stories he told me why the 1st MARDIV uses that as history. But the second division has it's sacrificial victory, too - one that many historians were amazed at.
Just some thoughts. Semper Fi.
Thearle J. Lacey, jr. 197XXXX
It Never Got Old
In re to "PEGLEG" 17 March 2016 newsletter.
This story brought back an old memory I had completely forgotten about. While stationed at Cherry Point, NC with VMA-242 in 1965-66 there were always seagulls sitting on the roof of the mess hall. Except, that is, when chicken was served that day. They were no where to be seen on the days chicken was on the menu, ever!
One of the dirty tricks that we used to pull was for 3 or 4 of us to get a couple of slices of bread each and tear them up into small pieces and as we walked out of the mess hall we would throw those bread crumbs at some one in the group that we had selected earlier and watch and laugh as the seagulls would swoop down off the roof and attack that person to get to the bread crumbs. It never got old and was so funny.
Cpl. William Evans
1966-67 Vietnam HMM-362 (Ugly Angels)
Hated The Thought Of Him
I went in on Feb 1952 PI, Sr DI was SGT McDanials. He was one hard azs Marine - tough as nails... Second hat was to me, mean & nasty. Sorry I don't remember his name (believe he was from Indiana) after a few weeks. All I could think of was beating the h-ll out of him or worse. For about the first 15-20 years after my discharge from the Corps I still hated the thought of him - Sometime after that I spent some time chatting with an Ol' Salt - after that conversation I realized that I owed him my strength and they both made me a Marine & a man with all the attributes one needs to make it through the Marines & through life, if & when life kicks ya in the teeth - and it will from time to time. There was one of two times when just after my heart operation - I couldn't move from the bed with my eyes closed... Had the feeling that I couldn't move - In my minds eye - I saw him with his Swagger Stick in hand Saying "Get Your Azs Out of Bed or I'll Break Every Bone in Your Body!" Within seconds I was out of bed & walking with help - without that experience in Boot Camp, I might not have ever recovered - IOU a great debt for getting me through many a situation - just remembering those words - Thanks to YOU both & to EVERY DI who made us better than we were when we met you.
US Marine, Class of '52
This may not be as interesting as most news letters, but I thought that I would share my fascination of the biography of Gen. Krulak and his adventures in our Corps. It was written by Robert Coram, copyright 2010. It is the story of his life and the foresighted developments of the amphibious and helicopter methods of landing troops that he pushed the Navy and Corps to adapt. It particularly highlights his personal effort, backed by his superiors, to thwart the efforts of previous administrations and brother services to abolish the U.S. MARINE CORPS. It also reviews the reasons for the jealous attitude held by the Army, starting at least in WW One. The preservation of the Corps requires in my opinion, a careful observation of what takes place in Washington by those of us who care, and lend support to those politicians who may defend and support the Corps. This should be required reading for all MARINES.
Order a copy of Brute: The Life of Victor Krulak, U.S. Marine
'51 – '54
Skills Learned In The Corps
Being Motor T during my four years of honorable service with my leathernecks I learned to respect to value and importance of logistics. Including my MOS and professionally since my time in uniform I've been involved in logistics in one fashion or another. I thought you all would be glad to hear, I'm sober and thankful for the life I have. I'm using my GI Bill to go back to school for Logistics Management. I'm 30 years old now and I've managed our logistics department at our shop for the past five years. I took a lot of good skills from the Corps I've been able to bring to the table in the civilian world. I'm a father of a 5 year old son. I've coached his T-ball team the past two seasons. I'm thankful for the time I gave to help our country and my brothers. I'm thankful for companies like SGT Grit to keep our spirits high. I'm always motivated reading the articles you send. Keep up the good work.
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Semper Fi Marines
CPL Jenkins, B.S.
Just received a text from SgtMaj Pacheco's daughter. The SgtMaj reported in to his next duty station on Thursday, 14 April 2016 at 1813. Members of Platoon 145, MCRD San Diego 1962 mourn his passing plus I know there are others who read this newsletter who served with the SgtMaj.
What a man. What a Marine. Semper Fidelis SgtMaj, Fidelis Ad Mortem.
"One Thing Led to Another and Before We Knew it, We Were Dead."
--Michael O'Donoghue - Founder of National Lampoon magazine & Saturday Night Live
Once a Corporal. Forever a Marine.
We've lost another WWII Marine to time. Harold Richard Spooner who served as a Black Sheep under Gregory "Pappy" Boyington has reported to his final duty station. Richard was 96 years young and is survived by his daughter and son.
Sgt. Strayer '79-'87
Lost And Found
Sgt Grit. I was a DI at PI from 1967-1969. A Co. 1st Bn. I just came across some extra graduation pictures that maybe your readers might be interested in. If they will contact me at gunnyjack[at]bellsouth[dot]net I will send a picture to the individual requesting at no cost to them. Thanks in advance if you might put this in one of your letters. One picture of Plt. 169, graduated 20 Jun 1967, One picture of Plt. 1004, graduated 14 Sep 1967, Two pictures of Plt. 1053, graduated 4 Dec 1967, One picture of Plt. 1091, graduated 5 Mar 1968. If you need any more information about the pictures feel free to contact me.
Medal of Honor Day, 30 April 2016
The following organizations will participate.
Military Related Organizations Tent:
1. Blue Star Mothers of Broken Arrow
2. Blue Star Mothers of Tulsa
3. Oklahoma Honor Flight
4. Vietnam Helicopter Pilots Association
5. GI Wishes "a pet for a vet"
6. Tulsa Vet Center
7. Sons of American Revolution
9. Oklahoma Women Veterans Organization
10.International Military Archives Preservation Foundation (IMAPF)
Military Display Tent:
1. Albert E. Schwab Congressional Medal of Honor and Burial Flag display
2. L&L Machine Guns - mg display
3. Henry Boden prints/photos
4. Keith Myers Military Traveling Museum
5. 45th Division re-enactors and their displays
6. USS Tulsa ship's bell
1. WWII - Vietnam military vehicles
2. Current military vehicle/equipment
Food and drink can be purchased at The Young Marines (youth group) concession stand. It'll open around 10:30 am.
Bring the children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren for an outstanding family outing at Veterans Park (21st and Boulder) on Saturday, April 30, 2016. Displays open at 10:00 am with formal program at 2:00 pm.
Thanks to Sgt. Whipple for sending that photo of the old 3rd Battalion barracks at PI. I was in Platoon 308 (Senior SSgt. R.R. Miller/ADI Sgt. L.C. Anderson/ADI Sgt. D.E. McNeal) 20 January until 25 March, 1969. I'll never forget the "pick up" run with our sea bags from the wooden receiving barracks over to 3rd Battalion. Thought I was going to die! I think I remember one of the DIs yelling we were going to live in "Disney Land". Guess he was referring to the fact that they were newer than the other battalion barracks at the time. Now they are old too and being torn down. What goes around comes around.
LtCol., United States Marine Corps (RET)
Brick vs wood barracks at PISC. I was in Plt. 215 I Co. 2nd RTR Bat. beginning in Feb. of 1959 and we were in two story, H-shaped wooden buildings. Don't remember what the others had.
Cpl C. Walters. '59-'63
Anyone who watched the U-Conn girls win their 4th straight National Basketball title recently, had to hear the announcers say that coach Geno said it was because of the Marines that were working out with the ladies teaching them P.T. and team exercise drills.
MGM Corps, '63-'67
"The relationship between officers and men should in no sense be that of superior and inferior, nor that of master and servant, but rather that of teacher and scholar. In fact, it should partake of the nature of the relationship between father and son, to the extent that officers, especially commanding officers, are responsible for the physical, mental, and moral welfare, as well as the discipline and military training of the young men under their command."
--LtGen John A. Lejeune, 13th CMC
"I selected an enormous Marine Corps emblem to be tattooed across my chest. It required several sittings and hurt me like the devil, but the finished product was worth the pain. I blazed triumphantly forth, a Marine from throat to waist. The emblem is still with me. Nothing on earth but skinning will remove it."
--MajGen Smedley Butler
"Any officer can get by on his sergeants. To be a sergeant you have to know your stuff. I'd rather be an outstanding sergeant than just another officer."
--SgtMaj Daniel Daly
"No war is over until the enemy says it's over. We may think it over, we may declare it over, but in fact, the enemy gets a vote."
--Gen James "Mad Dog" Mattis
"Hippity Hop, Mob Stop!"
"When I give you an EYES RIGHT, I want to hear those eyeballs click!"
"DO NOT MOVE! I don't care if there's a bee on your eyeball maggot!"
Stay Motivated Marine!