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I call it An Bang week. June 8 to June 16, 1969 Haggue [not sure
on spelling] died on the LP. From that night until the 16th we
received enemy contact nightly. Which night it was I remember
not. But during incoming 82s I jumped into a straddle trench.
Needless to say after sunrise a bath patrol was called for by
the 6. I will never forget the squad complaining about my odor
or rather smell. Add this one to your story page.
I am HM3 John M. Dunning, the coward who wrote half of Lt.
William H. Hardwicks Navy Cross citation which turned into his
Silver Star. Captain Castignetti wrote the best half.
In This Issue
Afrika Corps (WWII) and San Miguel, now there is an interesting
start. Chesty and Ribbon Creek, cold beer NOT, and some
outstanding Woman Marine tattoos. More Woman Marine tats and
another interesting beer cooling technique. Moores Marauders
needs some help to recover bodies from Tarawa.
Did you know that we are "unsavory". I guess as Marines we
should only talk about having tea at four. After all these years
I am still amazed at some peoples impression of what Marines are
all about. See more below.
What was your best DAY in the Corps? Let me hear from you.
(info@sgtgritnews.com)
Facebook is still going stronger than ever. And I am getting the
hang of the blog thing. Old dog new technology thing. The video
and pictures from the two DI's coming to OKC brought many
interesting comments.
Fair winds and following seas.
Sgt Grit

My father Was A Marine Torpedo Bomber (TBF)
Sgt. Grunt,
My father was a Marine Torpedo Bomber (TBF) aircrew in VMTB-143
on Guadalcanal in the October 1942 time period. He has been
watching "The Pacific" with great enthusiasm and he related to
me that, after watching what the line companies went through, he
realized he had it pretty good after all. Of course he didn't
realize it at the time, but his war was so much different from
the line companies. Some of the things he related:
1 - The aircrew lived in tents with wooden floors (4 men to a
tent)
2 - They had access to hot chow most days - he said they usually
ate chow with the Seabees who took pretty good care of the
flyboys
3 - They had access to sanitary facilities (latrines and
showers)
4 - When they went on R&R to Australia, they few in a C-47 (or
the Navy equivalent the R4D I think) and did not go via
troopship
5 - In Australia they were put up in hotels, not the "Soccer
Stadium"
6 - When they showed up in their flight suits they were really
treated like kings
7 - When they flew they at least were able to cool off a bit -
he said it was really HOT when they got into their planes that
had been sitting in the sun
Now that's not to say they had an easy war. Almost one-fourth of
his squadron didn't make it. The Japanese shelled Henderson
Field most every night and he spent most nights in a slit-trench
or a shelter covered with coconut logs. They also shelled the
airfield when the planes were taxing out for a mission - he
thinks they were mortars but he's not sure - they just went bang
and made the ground shake. As far as he can remember they never
hit a taxing plane. He remembers the flack and enemy fighters
and he had some pretty hairy missions (54 of them to be exact).
He was shot down twice (bailed out once and ditched once) but
never received a scratch.
He's in his late 80's now and his memory of those days is still
pretty clear. All of his friends are gone now and he is, as far
as he knows, the last man alive in the attached picture (which
he believes was taken in November 1942 - he is the third from
the right - second row seated). They flew out of Henderson Field
and bombed Rabaul and the Japanese troop barges bringing
reinforcements to Guadalcanal among other missions. At one time
he had a "vanity plate" on his car that said "Cactus" - which
99.9% of the people had no idea what that meant. It was a
reference to the "Cactus Air Force" which is what they called
the air power stationed at Henderson Field.
Anyway it really amazes me that after 68 years and a failing
memory on just about everything else (he has trouble remembering
his ATM number) he remembers so many details about his time on
Guadalcanal. He has never really talked about it much, but he
has told me more about his time there since "The Pacific"
started then he has in the previous 62 years of my life. I am
really grateful for that. I will be buying him the DVD set when
it becomes available.
Mike Sticksel
Fire for Effect: Woman Marine Tattoos - Back to top
Woman Marine Tattoos
I posted my EGA tattoo to grunt.com a few years ago but I saw a
guy was asking so I thought I would send it again. I got my EGA
when I turned 29 (March 06). I got it 3 years after I EAS'd. I
am also attaching a pic of me and a couple of my fellow Women
Marines partying on Bourbon Street while we were stationed in
New Orleans. I am the red head on the right :D
Cpl Joani Kent
What is it about a woman, who is a Marine, has a couple of
awesome tats and carries an automatic weapon that is just so
alluring?
I think only other Marines can answer that ;-) More pictures
like Natasha V. please!
Love the news letter and Facebook site.
Allen D. Herring
My name is Michelle Madine. I was in Oct 2001-2005 stationed at
Camp Schwab, Okinawa Japan from April 2002- Aug 2003 then to 43
Area Camp Pendleton, CA ...both were awesome duty stations (I
wouldn't change a thing).
I got my USMC tattoo done here in Pittsburgh while on boot leave
and the rest was done while I was in Japan. Now I'm shooting
for a whole sleeve with a Japanese influence.
Oohrah,
LCpl Michelle Madine
I would like to compliment MSGT Sandra Cook...
She has a really nice....
TaTTOO
Name withheld by request
Sgt. Grit,
I was an active duty Marine from 1995-1997 until I got injured
and was honorably discharged. I was a member of the very proud
Aviation Ordinance MOS. Attached is my tattoo on my leg that
shows my Ordy and Marine Corps pride.
Melissa Bryant
Hello! I am replying to the question from SSgt Chris Savas
about whether or not Women Marines have Marine Corps tattoos.
Below are several pictures of my Marine Corps tattoos. I served
in the Marine Corps from 1990-1994. You can see that my entire
left forearm is tattooed for the Corps. I have USMC tattooed
down my forearm with a black and grey American Flag in the
background. I also have "Desert Storm '90-'94" above my elbow.
The flag has rips around the edges to make it looks as if it is
coming out of my skin. I got this tattoo a few years ago by
Jason Brown from S.T. Tattoo in Venice, CA. There is a picture
of jason tattooing it on my arm at a San Jose Tattoo Convention.
I also have a Winnie the Pooh in a camouflage t-shirt on my
thigh and below it is USMC colored in Camouflage.
Unfortunately, I don't have pictures of that one. I didn't
want to get the typical Marine Corps tattoo, so I opted for
something a little different. I didn't get these tattoos until
after I left the Corps. I hope you enjoy! Cpl Michelle
(Lazo) Rouhier '90-'94
Hey Sgt Grit,
Yeah I know WM isn't the PC term but I was a WM and d*mned proud
of it. As to the tattoo question, I have a tat and a lot of my
friends got tats once we got to our MOS school. Women usually
get small tattoos, but I've seen some large tats on women that
were awesome. I've never had a pic taken of my tat, it's over
20 years old and faded from the sun. The scarlet and gold wings
of my butterfly have completely faded and the writing is blurry
now but it still means a lot to me.
Semper Fi,
Anna Grabill
USMC
A Large Puff
Reading about the use of fire extinguishers to cool beer
reminded me of a fiasco while trying to do just that. We were
in Chu Lai in May of '65 and had just received our first beer
ration. The cans of Carling Black Label were about 110 degrees,
we got two cans a day. We tried burying them as deep as
possible but it only brought the temperature of the beer down to
about 100 degrees, if you opened one, it would blow half the
contents out and drinking the half that was left was hardly
worth the effort.
One of the guys named Bob said we could cool the beer with a
fire extinguisher and he knew where there was a parts trailer
that had not only fire extinguishers but it was in a place where
we could do it with no one watching. So he, Fred and I slipped
up on the parts trailer and Bob got inside with six beers, Fred
and I locked the door from the outside and nonchalantly went
about our business (of trying not to look suspicious) and gave
Bob about ten minutes to do the deed.
When Fred and I came back to the trailer and opened the door, a
large puff of white smoke bloomed out of the door, the cans of
beer were laying there with a coat of white on them that looked
like frost. Hot d*mn, cold beer! Didn't notice Bob gasping
for breath until I touched one of the cans and realized it was
still at 110 degrees. It was then that Bob was able to speak
the words "dry chemical"!
Funny later but not at the time. Took Bob several days to get
over the effect of breathing in all the dry chemicals but he
survived.
Not going to identify us culprits any further because we all
went on to successful careers and are all three retired Staff
NCO's. But if either of them are reading this, they will
remember the incident, I guarantee it!
52 Years
Sgt. Grit,
52 years ago and seems like yesterday.
Semper Fi,
Bob G. 1804023
1958-1961
Unacceptable - Why?
Sgt Grit,
I wanted to reply to Al Brodbent's reply to the story about the
DI spitting the half-eaten coach-roach into the recruits face.
I don't understand why Al believes the DI's act was
unacceptable.
If the DI had forced the recruit to eat the cock-roach himself,
then I could understand Al's concern, but if Al thinks that
spitting the cock-roach in the recruit's face was such a
horrible thing, I wonder what he thinks of the millions of other
"questionable" things DI's have done over the many years of our
illustrious Corps history?
Our training is just a smidgeon of what sets us apart from other
branches of the service, and sometimes the DI's resort to shock
tactics to drive home a point. The recruit was not forced to
march through Ribbon Creek by Sgt McKeon, and his being singled
out by the DI was surely not the lone case of "harassment" by
any DI in that platoon, but I would bet a dollar to a dozen
doughnuts that there have been other things done to recruits
that were far worse and never considered unacceptable by
Marines.
I went through Parris Island in 1981, so it was probably not as
tough then as when Al went through, but I will say this - I
respect my DIs immensely to this day and credit them for the
Marine they made me and the man they helped to make me and we
were subjected to what some may consider "unacceptable"
treatment at times by today's standards, but I would not have
wanted my training any other way.
Mike Kunkel
Marine
Note: I agree. The DI's are making warriors not Boy Scouts. I do
not take exception to anything my DI's did in 1968. Although at
the time I was wondering what the fv^* is going on. Looking back
it was all to help keep me alive in Vietnam.
Sgt Grit
My Tattoo
Hey Sgt. Grit. Here's my tattoo I got in 2000. Semper Fi.
-Sgt. Garcia
7th MARINES(rein)TOWS
1st TKBN TOWS
E23 ASSAULT
Fire for Effect: Yellowlegs - Back to top
Crazy Yellowlegs
Sgt. Grit,
Regarding the "and I quote" in your newsletter for Thur. Apr.
29th about the Chinese order not to attack the Marines in Korea
(the Chinese called them the Crazy Yellowlegs), was the
interesting aftermath by the big brass in Japan. Instead of
having the Army dawn leggings like any savvy leadership would
do, they sent out a directive to have the Marines cease and
desist wearing them. Makes one wonder about the intelligence
level at the higher echelons of command. This decision reminds
me of the words of wisdom I have on a paper attached to my
filing cabinet which reads as follows:
"ADMINISPHERE - The rarified organizational layers beginning
just above the rank and file. Decisions that fall from the
adminisphere are often profoundly inappropriate or irrelevant to
the problems they were designed to solve.
Stan Brangham Cpl of Marines
Correction
A little error in this post restated below.
The following attributes the saying "leave Marines alone, attack
army" to a Chinese officer. It was a North Korean colonel during
the Pusan battle with the First Prov. Marine Brigade, 8/7/50 to
9/6/50.
R.L. Walker A/1/5
1950.
And I Quote...
"Do not attack the Marines. They fight like devils. Leave the
Marine yellowlegs alone. Strike the American Army."
--[a captured Chinese Army Headquarters directive to Chinese
troops in Korea, 1951]
As The Bent Rod
I also was in the 'Basilone' platoon when we all went to boot
camp on July 24th 1962. However, I have a different recollection
of a few things. We were initially issued M-1 Garands, which we
did not have for very long, before we all got the cosmolined
(sp) M-14's.
I have a vivid memory of 2 things that occurred, 1- an M1 thumb,
and 2- getting the absolute crap beat out of me when I noticed
the operating rod on the M1 looked bent, which I promptly fixed
by 'straightening' it out using the but plate of the stock. This
instantly rendered the rifle inoperable, as the bent rod was
engineered that way, Sgt. Leone then 'straightened' me out.
Don't know if it was you, or someone else had a question about
when we went from brown leather to all black boots, shoes, etc,
that was also in our boot camp.
SGT. D.T. Lang
1962 to 1966
PMI/NCOIC C-Line
Weapons Training battalion
MCRD PISC
Fire for Effect: Short Rounds - Back to top
Short Rounds
Hi Sgt Grit,
I just graduated boot camp from MCRD San Diego. Co C Plt1042 and
just wanted to say that I am proud to be a part of the greatest
brotherhood in the world.
M W Altom, PFC, USMC
Sgt. Grit,
Thanks for the great site. Even us "Doc's" like to keep up with
the Corps.
Semper Fi
Frederick H. Giese, Hm1 (FMF) USN (Ret)
Echo Co. 2/3, RVN Oct.67-Nov.68
In Response to "MEDAL OF HONOR" last week's news letter. Thanks
to all those involved The Members of Dog-7 and to Fred
Frankville for being instrumental, recognizing and initiating
the efforts of Hm3 Richard Dewert, "Navy Fleet Marine Force
Combat Corpsman", He has not been forgotten To receive the
highest award for his Valor and Efforts to Save his Fellow
Marines "THE MEDAL OF HONOR" along with his name being "Honored
and Memorialized" Dog -7 you have done well "Semper Fidelis"
Frank Morelli FMF Navy Combat Corpsman 3rd Mar Div '67- 68
Good series. Did notice the use of the "herringbones" for
utilities (do they still call them that now?). And the old soft
utility covers, and the leggings?? they did a good job on the
recreation. The part 7 on Peleliu was almost too real, but no
mention of "Bloody Nose Ridge". Good series, though.
Dick Fowler-not a WWII vet, but a proud retired former CO of
3/23-in California.
I don't know about everywhere but in Missouri it is a yearly
thing where they select certain poolees from each RSS covered
and put them on stage for everybody to see how it will be at
basic.
The answer why no one used the bar on the pacific show, the
weapon was to heavy, the web gear with four twenty rd.
magazines, and bipods you're over twenty lbs. i can't recall
what the bar weight was been too long. Gil Gerrish 1856640
1959 to 1963
The Pacific
Dear Sgt. Grit,
I have been reading some of the posts former Marines have been
posting concerning "The Pacific", and I'd like to put in my $.02
worth. My father was a former Marine Gunny of 26 yrs. who served
in WW2, Korea, and Vietnam. He served in the 4th Mar. Div. and
saw action at Tinian, Saipan, and Iwo Jima, of which he received
2 purple hearts, one from Saipan and one from Iwo.
From his tales and what photos he had, what they have been
airing has been mostly accurate. Sgt. Hoffman had mentioned
about the foul language and my father had among the most foul
mouths you can imagine. When the movie "Patton" came out he
mentioned about the speech at the beginning about how you would
catch people's attention when you cussed at them.
Also, before WW2 you didn't have journalist with the units
during the Spanish-American war and the things Marines did in
the Philippines made them most feared and legendary to the
locals that they remembered when we returned.
As far as the haircuts, my dad said they were more concerned
with trying to survive then to worry how long their hair and
mustaches. He told about one time on one of the islands a truck
broke down near a enlisted bivouac site that was carrying beer
to the Officers club, and within minutes the truck was emptied
and no one could find where the beer went to. I have a photo of
him with one huge one.
I do agree that they have not used the BAR in any of the battle
scenes. As far as a comment concerning Clint Eastwood's "Flags
Of Our Fathers", my father never saw it but from the ways he had
described the horror he faced until he was wounded by a
artillery shell, the movie was dead on. My father, GySgt.
Charles E. Thompson passed away on Sept. 3 2007.
Thanks,
LCpl William Thompson '89 - '92 Desert Storm vet.
Tattoo In My Living Room
Hi, Took a long time to figure out what Marine tattoo I wanted.
Had this done in my living room over a week-end. Took about 20
hours. Lindsay, my artist, is a great one to work with and is
right here in Michigan. Buck.
Unsavory
Subject: Member has unsubscribed.
The following member has unsubscribed: xxxxxxxxxxx from all
lists. They were logged for all lists.
IP: 72.xxxxxxx.66
Date: 4/29/2010
Reason: unsavory
Note:
Dictionary definition:
unsavory
adjective 1 disagreeable to taste, smell, or look at. 2
objectionable; disreputable.
Well....hhhmmmm....well, I don't know if I'm to feel insulted
or complimented. I mean we are Marines after all. So, I will
comply with his request and consider it a compliment.
OOOOO%#$@*RAH!
Sgt Grit
Chesty And Ribbon Creek
Back in the days of my "Old Corps" I was in Plt 76, 4th Bn at
the range on Parris Island when recruits (from 71, I think) were
marched into Ribbon Creek. SSgt McKoen their DI marched the
little end into the creek first and 6 were drowned. The incident
made all the newspapers and he was accused of drinking while on
duty as well as a number of other infractions under Article 134,
etc.
Both the Commandant (General Randolph McCall Pate and Retired Lt
General Lewis B. (Chesty) Puller testified in stark contrast to
each other in many ways. Commandant Pate forfeited his power to
convene a court-martial after he foolishly made careless remarks
to the press.
The commonly held opinion was that Pate was a "desk" general and
Chesty was a field general which was proven by his combat record
and testimony during the court-martial.
Allegedly during the testimony, McKoen's attorney (Emile Zola
Berman) asked Chesty to state his name, and he replied that he
would do so but it wasn't necessary since everyone there knew
who he was. Chesty did not seek to justify McKoen's actions,
only the failure of the high command to keep the Corps from
being put on trial. McKoen's behavior would most certainly have
been more severe (in many ways) had the Corps been allowed to
punish him.
In those days Boot Camp was often excessively brutal, but the
time frame must be considered. America had lost a lot of good
Marines during WW II and the Korean "War." We were preparing to
fight "the long war" against an often brutal enemy, and that
required tough training, but not what resulted at Ribbon Creek.
The drowning of the six Marines created a national media feeding
frenzy by exposing some routine slapping of recruits by their
drill instructors and the uncondoned drinking by a very few of
them while on duty.
After his appearance in court, General Puller had a few beers at
the Slop Shoot (E-1 thru E-4) and the NCO Club (E-5 thru E-9),
before departing for home. I was privileged to serve his
Sergeant Major who recounted story-after-wonderful story about
"Chesty" the Marines - Marine.
Michael I. Hirsch, MSgt Retd, (1956-1961)
Fire for Effect: Quicker Liquor - Back to top
Afrika Corps And San Miguel
I read Bob Doherty's story with special interest. I
participated in the SEATO exercise Mindoro in 1961. I was with
L/3/9. Still remember the sugar cane fields, rats and all that
came with that.
Got a chance to get some real cold San Miguel. We heard of a
Catholic Priest in the town of San Jose(off limits). A friend
and I hitched a ride into town and visited the priest. He was
interesting in that he had been drafted into the German Army
during WWII while in the seminary. He served in the Afrika
Corps, was captured by Americans and sent to POW camp in Texas.
While we were visiting with him, he gave us cold mangos and real
cold San Miguel. While we were there, four or five Marine
Officers arrived wanting to visit with the priest. They ordered
us back to camp but did/could not report us, as they were off-
limits also. Arriving back at camp, we received a good Marine
asz-chewing by our platoon 'Sgt but not reported.
Good to hear from someone that served with me between 1960-1964.
Would like to hear from whomever served same time especially
air-wingers who supported us in Thailand during Laotian Crisis.
Air cover provided by Marine F4 fighter pilots while doing
jungle patrols was great.
Gung-Ho
Frank Briceno
1960-1964 USMC
1970-1976 USMCR
Red Mountain
Dear Sgt. Grit:
I never thought that I would see the words 'Red Mountain' in
your newsletter. Seeing those 2 words together brought back
memories of some severe hangovers. I was the barracks armor at
Marine Barracks NAS North Island from 9/70 to 11/72. Red
Mountain Pink Chablis was the final drink of choice for barracks
personnel when money was tight which was always. If you could
drink some of that Red Mountain and not puke it out right away,
than a roach was the equivalent of a rib eye steak smothered in
mushrooms and onions! Although the phrase Red Mountain brings
back memories, it probably has caused the loss of a lot of
memories!
Thanks for the great newsletters Sgt. Grit.
SF David Mendiola
$15 A Payday
I got a kick out of the letter from Jim Grimes. At $67.00 every
two weeks ($134.00 a month) he still had to scrounge through his
locker for beer money several days after payday. I rec'd $15.00
a payday and loaned money to boozers drawing almost 3 times that
amount. However, I didn't booze it up, it was more fun watching
those who did.
While stationed at Kaneohe Bay we were on the 3rd level of the
barracks and I can remember watching the boozers come in
crawling up 3 flights of stairs on their hands and knees; the
funniest part of their effort was they didn't even stand up when
they reached the top deck. They continued to crawl on their
hands and knees to their rack.
Another thing that was a hoot was to listen to their stories
about this "Marilyn Monroe" they picked up in town.
Occasionally we would see them with their date in their "stupor
state" and later show them the Marilyn Monroe they had picked
up, then listen to their denials.
The Corps had to be one of the most memorable periods of my
life. God Bless the Corps and all who served and is serving.
Stan Brangham
Cpl of Marines 53-55
Sometimes I Think
Re: tattoos. IN the Old Corps -- 55+ years ago, the guys in my
platoon would go on liberty, drink too many beers, and get a
tattoo. I couldn't drink. Fell asleep after the 1st one. Never
got a tattoo.
Sometimes I think about why not and realize, I'm glad I didn't.
HOWEVER, having said that, I'm active with the 1st Marine
Division Southern California Chapter and think about a henna
tattoo. NAH.
Pristine body when I go to the Med School as a corpse, they'd
laugh. So, no tattoo, henna or real.
OooRah!
O Thompson
'53-59 Korea, Japan, and other foreign countries including Texas
Gravelly Voice
I await and read with much interest every email I receive from
Sgt Grit. The Apr 22nd really piqued my interest when I read the
one from Sgt Maj. Robert Lowe. I too was in Plt 248 2nd Bn. in
the summer of '60. I checked my platoon book to see his picture,
and there it was two pictures to the right of mine.
I remember also the mouthy E-4 drill instructor Cpl. Lee. Our
senior D.I. was a very fair S/sgt Holiwski. His asst. was Sgt.
Bodnar, a stern, but very fair Marine. I had the pleasure of
meeting Sgt. Bodnar 2 years later at Courthouse Bay, when
waiting in line for lunch I heard his gravelly voice say,"don't
I know that name Lorrain" I was amazed that with all the Marines
that he had seen graduate, that he could remember mine.
Cpl. James Lorrain 10th Eng. Co. Portland Maine 1959-1967
Fire for Effect: Tattoo Debate - Back to top
Denied re-enlistment
LOTS of women Marines have the EGA tattooed on them... not me
personally, but have thought of doing so several times... Can't
believe a Marine was denied reenlistment for the placement of
his USMC... how bad for the Corps... if it was something
grotesque, or anything BUT USMC, maybe I'd understand.. but COME
ON!
Cherri'
I think they started gelding the Corps when they replaced the
USMC/EGA on the pocket. The Tattoo matter is going over the top.
Perhaps it is time to restore the China Fleet!?? Ship once and
just not come BACK! :)) Best Doc Nottoli
tattoos are out of hand a different Corps there is a better way
to show your pride.
s/sgt mark usmc disability retired 1951 1968 semper fi...mac
i served with pride without painting my body
Sgt Grit,
The article about the former Marine who was denied reenlistment
due to the placement of his tattoo is misleading, MCO 1040.31J
(retention Manual for the Marine Corps) has no reenlistment
requirement regarding tattoo's so for that Marine to say that is
the reason he was denied is incorrect. While he might have made
the decision to get the tattoo after the tattoo policy went into
effect and received an NJP or negative Pg. 11 as the result of
his poor choice to disobey an order even that alone would not be
a sufficient reason for the Marine Corps to deny him
reenlistment, which leads me to believe that this Marine
obviously had other contributing factors that led to him being
denied.
Semper Fi
SSgt. C
Wished I Would Have
I have sent you a letter before on this subject but it seems
that some don't get the picture. I served from 1983 to 1988. My
ex-wife didn't think too much of the Corps which I could care
less. During that time I was married, I didn't think too much
about the Corps. But now that I am a free man, I think about it
all the time. There is no such thing as a "FORMER MARINE"!
I am very proud to be a part of the few and the proud. I wear a
Marine Corps t-shirt practically every day. Didn't buy them from
you, but wished I would have at the time. Just received your
newsletter today (4-22-10) for the first time since the
beginning of last year. I knew there was something missing when
I check my email in the morning and it was your newsletter. Glad
to be back on the list.
But these old or new Corps men and women need to stop the former
crap. There is no such thing. Guess they forgot "ONCE MARINE,
ALWAYS a MARINE." Just want to remind them.
Kendal Schacher
Did Not Have A Combat Patch
In the letter from J.D. Gwiazdon...I don't quite understand his
saying where the patch should be worn.
I left Nam in '68 and left the Corps in '69...in 1980 I joined
the Army, for reasons too lengthy to get into. The Batt. CO
wanted me to wear an Army support patch on my right shoulder
(Combat Shoulder) Left shoulder is for the unit you are
currently in, but I refused because I was in the Corps in Nam;
the Col. said the Marines did not have a combat patch.
In 1980, I may have been the only retread Marine in the Army
stationed at Ft Bliss...but somehow I found the 1st MarDiv
Guadalcanal Patch someplace and presented it to the CO and he
accepted it, even tho it was not OD Green, I was allowed to wear
in on my utilities.
A few days later he awarded me the Army Commendation Medal for
having been in two branches of the military...but it never
showed up on my DD 214.
Mark Gallant
2200015
USMC/VA-Nat-Guard/US Army Med ret
The Gunny Failed To Tell Me
When I graduated from high school in 1966, I knew I had to get
away from Santa Cruz, California. The place was being overrun by
hippies. I couldn't even enjoy the beautiful outdoors without
the scent of pot in the air.
I was burned out going to school so college was out of the
question. I didn't want to work with my dysfunctional family in
construction. I needed to get away from them too.
The military would be a good option. I had a brother booted out
of the Air Force. Didn't think I would like that. I had another
brother that served in the Army (peacetime). He hated it. I
hated bell bottom pants (reminded me of what the hippies wore)so
the Navy was out of the question.
I had never known a Marine. I didn't even know what their
uniform looked like, that is until I set foot into a Marine
Recruiters office. Very sharp looking Gunnery Sergeant in a
dress green uniform. The red gunnery sergeant chevrons and the
colorful ribbons enhanced his appearance quite well.
The Gunnery Sergeant gave me a history lesson like none I had
ever heard. He told me of battles won on land, sea and in the
air. He told me of men like John Basilone, Pappy Boyington and
Chesty Puller. Names I had never heard of. He told me of battles
won, even when the odds were heavily against the Marines. He
told me that those battles were won not only due to the training
the Marines had but also because of the trust and love Marines
had for one another. "Yes son." He said, "Marines fight amongst
themselves. They have disagreements. throw a few punches, but on
the battlefield, there is no one you would want by your side
than that Marine that gave you a black eye the night before. The
Marine Corps builds men."
I wasted no time signing on. I wanted to be a man. I wanted to
be with men like Basilone and Boyington and Sgt Nat Holmes.
(That's another story). The Gunnery Sergeant gave me the
necessary papers I needed for my parents to sign since I was
only 17.
What the Gunny failed to tell me was what boot camp was like.
D*mn! Was I in for a rude awakening.
Life has been good ever since, including my experience in
Vietnam as a grunt because I had good Marines at my side.
Semper Fi to all
GySgt John D. Foster
Echo 2/9 67 & 68
Moore's Marauders & Tarawa Marine Remains Recovery
I was contacted a few days ago by a fellow Marine here in Aiken
(a serving FBI agent) who wanted to inform me about a rather
unique organization. Moore's Marauders was formed by a man named
Ron Moore to help JPAC (Joint POW-MIA Accounting Command) in
their mission of recovering and identifying remains of MIA's and
KIA's.
Briefly, there are about 88,000 unaccounted for servicemen from
WW II, Korea, the Cold War, Vietnam and the Gulf War. The
approximate numbers are 78,000 from WW II, 8,100 from Korea, 120
from the Cold War, 1,800 from Vietnam and 1 from the Gulf War.
Although JPAC has identified some 1,300 remains so far and has a
backlog of several thousand remains at their facility, the
critical issues of timing apply. At the current rate, with
available assets, it would be many decades before identification
can be made and families will be few and far between. He has
become a member and expects to travel to Tarawa in a very
worthwhile project.
The Marauders website is www.MooresMarauders.org and the board
consists of many very recognizable individuals including Vice
Admiral Joe Mobley, General William (Spider) Nyland, LtGen Earl
Hallston, Vice Admiral Herb Brown, Colonel Jim Lucas, Colonel
Bill Bauer, Colonel Len Fuchs, Dr. Kent Schneider, Carlton
Sherwood, with many other regular members.
Their objective is to bring closure within three years, to 1,000
American MIA's families, bringing home the remains under the
direction of their families, of those who, once located, can be
forensically identified, within twelve months.
The goal is to raise about $2.2 million dollars over three years
to accomplish the objective.
To the immediate point, it has now been confirmed that the
remains of more than 200 Marines and sailors KIA on Tarawa and
buried there just after the battle of Tarawa and Betio are still
there despite assurances that all remains had been removed years
ago by a contractor. A mission is being mounted to return to
Tarawa in August of this year to effect the full recovery of
these Marines and corpsmen. It is believed that one cemetery was
'overlooked' and the former cemetery thought to be empty is
located at or near the end of the runway under a layer of
compressed crushed coral.
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