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I recently signed up to play golf for a local community
fundraiser. As I arrived at the clubhouse, I listened to all the
rules and hole assignments, then stepped up to sign in. when the
starter asked me my name, I told him 'Don Grisez'. He looked me
in the eye, stood up and reached across the table to shake my
hand. He proceeded to pull $65.00 (the entry fee) out of his
wallet and handed it to me saying that my son Cpl. Sean Grisez
had called that morning from Afghanistan to pay for my golf and
to wish me a happy Father's Day. Needless to say, there wasn't a
dry eye in the crowd.
As I'm sure all you Marine dads know, words can not express how
proud I am of my children and how much Sean's act of love meant
to me.
Semper Fi,
Don Grisez Cpl of the Marines '74-'78 and proud dad of
Cpl Sean Grisez and LCpl Brandon Grisez
Chaplain's Corner
The Alphabet Men of C Co. First Tank Battalion (Part 1)
By Bob Boardman
Fate is the same for the man who holds back, the same if he
fights hard. We are all held in a single honor, the brave with
the weaklings. A man dies still if he has done nothing, as one
who has done much. - Homer in The Iliad, 800 BC
At Camp Elliott in San Diego after Boot Camp in early 1943, we
were "volunteered" alphabetically, A, B, C & D, for Marine Corps
tank training at Jaques Farm. The Alphabet Men, of whom I was
one, were Alvarez, Atkinson, Backovich, Bahde, Barwick,
Brenkert, Christensen-and many others too numerous to list. Even
today, almost 60 years later, I continue to ponder the
mysterious fate of being thrown together with some of America's
finest, only because of the alphabet.
After Jaques' Farm, fate placed us in the 17th Replacement
Battalion and we loaded aboard the USS Rochambeau in San Diego
together with the 18th Replacement Bn. We made a 28-day zig-zag
"luxury cruise" to Melbourne, Australia. There were 4000 to 5000
troops aboard. Down Under we were carefully planted among the
depleted ranks of the First Marine Division after the key battle
of Guadalcanal.
We were not Marine philosophers, just green, untested-in-combat
troops, but our fate continued to carry us together
alphabetically, inexorably to close with a no-quarter enemy.
What is fate?....Read More
He Looked Up To Me
In 1961 I was on a cruise to Vieques Puerto Rico and I and four
others were selected to be aggressors for the landing. We had
only minimal food and supplies and were told to live off the
land. There were alot of fruit trees and little kids were
everywhere selling everything including cold beer. We slept on
the ground and one of us was Pvt Pellegrini from NYC. He was
paranoid with the tarantulas that were everywhere. Every night
before we went to sleep he would clear all the Kuni grass away
and fill all the holes in the ground with rocks. One morning all
of us were awake except Pellegrini. I stood over him pointing my
rifle loaded with blanks at his chest. One of the other guys
gently shook him a wake and said "Pellegrini, don't move there
is a tarantula on your chest but Lynch is going to kill it" He
looked up at me with bug eyes and knocked me over getting up. I
think he would have killed me except that we went through Parris
Island together.
Sgt JKLynch 1938818
Memory Lane
Reading your weekly newsletter always revives long lost
memories. My best friend, John was part of a career Navy family,
whose father was a Commander. In typical military tradition, all
of John's friends were treated like adopted sons.
About a year after my discharge, I got a call from my adopted-
mom. She asked if I'd take Peggy; who attended an all girls-
school, to her senior prom. While family traits were ruggedly
handsome, they didn't suit the girls. Most of them were big
boned, or over-weight. If you've seen Shrek, you'll know what I
mean. But, Peggy had an inner beauty and a heart of gold; for a
kid sister.
In my Dress Blues and being 22 years old, I guess that I cut a
dashing figure of a man, among giddy teenagers. Peggy's Mom had
bought a corsage and was surprised that I did, too. Peggy looked
absolutely radiant and as we danced every number, I made sure
that I only had eyes for her. When we got home and for many
years after, Mom treated me as if I had been awarded the
Congressional Medal...I guess that I was a hero to her and to
Peggy, too.
The Riot
One Saturday night, as an MP at Kaneohe MCAS, a call was
received that there was "a riot" at the E Club. MP vehicles of
that era were stick shift, 1950's vintage, Chevrolet pickups,
with a giant gumball on the roof.
It was (an unauthorized) common practice to make "emergency
stops" by putting the truck into neutral; shutting off the
engine and applying the emergency brake...A way-cool technique
to an impressionable teenager.
As we arrived at the Club, I used this technique to stop the
truck; in order to quickly exit the vehicle. Unfortunately, the
guy who was riding shotgun, jumped out too soon. If you've ever
seen a rubber ball, attached to a paddle by a rubber band,
that's what the passenger door did to his body as his feet hit
the ground.
Our squad entered the club on the run, but our yells for order
were ignored, amid the pandemonium. One of the guys (from
Cripple Creek, Colorado) jumped up onto the bar. When he banged
down the butt of his Remington, 12 gauge, riot gun (which had a
hammer) it blew a large hole in the ceiling. There was immediate
and absolute silence as everyone; including me, lunged face down
on the floor.
This incident was a double edged sword. It was policy to have an
empty chamber in MP weapons, so a reprimand was made. But,
congratulations were given for creative thinking, in using an
effective method that achieved instantaneous order.
I truly enjoy reading the input from other Marines. If only for
a few moments, my mind becomes young again.
Semper Fi !
J.J. Haight
USMC, 60-64
Hawked My Overcoat
Sgt. Grit.
I read Sgt. Kramer clothing note, and I was issued Khakis,
tropicals, green Ike jacket, green wool shirts, wool overcoat,
and all my dungarees had the pockets, metal buttons and the rest
of I thought WW2 items. This was in fall of 1953. When in
Japan, I hawked my overcoat when the raincoat with liner came
in. I still have my green shirt and green winter gear plus may
other items. I give a class at my daughters history class on
the Chosin and how that came about twice a year. There are
about 200 students that must behave while I do my thing and let
them know the Marine Corps is special.
Sgt. Peter Wojciechowski 53-56.
Dear John Letters
Received three of them in 14 months, did pi jan 28, 1958,
discharged march 6th 1959, ref the khaki uniform, here's my
picture wearing them in 1959, issued at pi.
enjoy reading the memories, forgot my platoon # at pi, records
show that i was in P co 3rd batl 1st inf. we had tropical
uniforms as well,
done 25 years law enforcement, retired 1994,
semper fi, LL Collins
Rough Side Out
Do you remember the utilities with the sleeves that had only a
strap and a button or a little later the utilities with the
buttons covered on the pockets and front. How about the boots
with the rough side out. What a job to spit shine.
I was late for the herringbone utilities.
Sgt John R Young (Ret)
He Gave The Command
In reading SSgt Blair's mention of the San Diego runway adjacent
to the practice drill field at MCRD in the June 6th news letter,
I was reminded of my own experiences there. I went through
platoon #3151 from Nov'70-Jan'71. Our practice grinder was
adjacent to an airport taxiway, where the planes, usually from
PSA, would rev up before hitting the runway. I remember one of
the last practice sessions just prior to the graduation drill
competition. Our DI was Sgt Johnson. It was a particularly
busy day for PSA using that taxiway. Sgt Johnson had just
gotten done emphasizing our inability to differentiate "port
arms" from "right face". They both sounded like "AAARRRT HYUH".
Half would do a right face, the other half would come to port
arms. Complicating all of this, the large jet would start
revving the engines, so that we could not hear the command of
execution for the "right flanks" and "right obliques" while
marching. It was a fiasco. Sgt Johnson maneuvered us all into
a single line along the airport fence. When the next plane came
out and started to rev up, he gave the command, "Flip Bird!".
At which point we all executed a perfectly timed one-finger
salute. While holding that salute, we all, in cadence, repeated
after him, on command, "f///-you PSA!". The airplane windows on
our side of the plane filled up with faces. I believe Sgt
Johnson got into a bit of trouble for that one, but our platoon
did take the drill comp.
(Cpl) Dana Smyser, CoG, 2/7, 1st MarDiv ('70-'72)
The Bull
Sgt. Grit...I truly like your web site...I get on it all the
time...right now I would like to ask fellow Marines who served
at El Toro Marine Base during WW11, and after, if they remember
a tough by the name of M/Sgt. Albert "The Bull" Gordon ..He was
really something...tough as hard nails...chew you out in a
second..and yes I even heard young Lieutenants reply to him as
"Sir"... Just wondering if any one was left around who
remembered him.....San Diego MCRD...toughest training on earth.
Scaro
Let Us Never
I recently responded directly to Sgt Newton that is incarcerated
and feels that himself and several other Honorably Discharged
veterans are being shunned by fellow vets and vet organizations.
When I was a baby Marine (17), I chased some Long Beach girl
around while UA for 14 days. As a result I spent 14 days lost
time in the Pendleton Red-Line Brig in '64. A Marine Major told
me what an embarrassment I was to "his" Marine Corps, the EGA
and humanity itself, and should exit it ASAP. 4 years in Vietnam
and 2 tours as a DI later, he was still a Major and I his GySgt
Supply Chief.
My 2 best friends in H&S 2/7 both had to return to the world
from RVN in '65. Joseph Nimoroski had to marry his girlfriend,
and was KIA 2 days after returning to RVN on Harvest Moon. Ken
LaFrancis' Dad passed and he chased that same LB girl, stole a
car and went to prison. I lost both of them, did I love one
more than the other? Was my loss any less for either of my 2
brothers? I taught my recruits that Marines live by a Code of
Honor. That along their path in life they would meet Marines
that served before them, with them and after them. A Marine
never loses faith with his fellow Marines, and we always look
after one another. This site is proof that all it takes is a cap
or shirt or tattoo to indicate who are Marines and we gravitate
towards that person, with our Semper Fi. I can't tell you how
many times the stories on this site, have brought this old 60
year old man to tears. The is a reason there is a UCMJ and a
brig. We are Marines and like all other creatures, not perfect.
Let us never turn our backs on our Honorably Discharged
brothers, that have fallen from our Code. Instead lets lift
every person up that has ever taken the oath to defend our
nation, and leave no man behind..We are losing our WWII, Korea
and VN vets daily...Lest we never forget...those youngsters that
fill our shoes today..Semper Fi
Potter, MGySgt of Marines
RVN: 2/7 65-66, 1stMT 69-70, FSSG 72
San Diego Zoo
Your recent newsletter triggered a lot of memory in this "old
Marine!" It took me back to recruit training in January of 52',
in San Diego, Tent Camp 3 inside the gates of Camp Pendleton
from San Clemente, to G-3-5 Korea, then 54' & 56' at Marine
Barracks, Atsugi, on to DI School, then 2nd Recruit Training
Battalion, Diego, to Sea School where I served as an Instructor,
while the base was under the command of one of the Finest the
Corps has ever produced, "General Victor H. Krulak."
It brought to mind one of the most laughable incidents in my 10
years of duty among the finest, during the retirement parade of
"Sgt. Major John Muth", of the Recruit Training Command!
Fortunate to be selected to serve as part of the reviewing
staff, directly behind the Sgt. Major, and Colonel Hochmuth,
proceeding to advance to review the troops "as they passed in
review, we overheard the Colonel say to John, "what are you
going to do following retirement, John?" The Sgt. Major paused
to answer, then quietly said, "I'm going to go to the San Diego
Zoo!" The Colonel said, "what would a Marine Sergeant Major do
at the San Diego Zoo?"
Muth replied, "I'm going to get even with the monkeys...I've
been taking orders from them for over 30 years!" Smiles
overcame us all, even the good colonel, knowing that "only a
Marine Sergeant Major could pull that one off!"
While at Sea School I was blessed to have been selected to
accompany retired Marine General H.M. "Howling Mad" Smith to
some civic affairs when he and his family lived in La Jolla, and
the former Commandant General Ian Richies of the British Royal
Marines along with his family, when they visited San Diego. I
drove Major General James Risely on his trips to Atsugi.
Incidentally I was an 0369/5841, not a driver.
Since, I've been blessed to come home to Arizona, serve as a
Special Assistant to a U.S. Congressman, a State Police Officer,
and then be elected twice to the Navajo Tribe, Indian Wells
Chapter, incidentally I'm married to a Navajo.
I proudly wear the "bolo tie" of Navajo Code Talker Sgt. Major
Dan Akee, and count his friendship and that of former Code
Talker Bill Toledo of Laguna, New Mexico as an important part of
my life's experiences.
I also remember T/Sgt Joe Lazarko, and T/Sgt Billie Love, who
both played prominent parts in the D.I. movie in 1957. Joe has
been to some of the DI Association reunions at San Diego. They
were part of the Recruit Training Command.
When we meet again on the streets of Gold, and remember the 3rd
verse of the Hymn, "if the Army or the Navy ever look on
heaven's scenes, they'll find the streets are guarded by United
States Marines!" I'll be looking for John Muth, the General,
and the rest of those I had the pleasure of serving with! What
"sea stories we can share!"
Sergeant Richard A. Stauffer, Phd
51-60
Bombs AWAY
Ah, K-Bay. It was 1966 or 67 {Yep, I'm getting old too}. I
started out as a bus boy in the e-club and ended up as a
bartender.
I was with an F-4B squadron that I can't even remember.
Naturally, being good Marines, we had a rival with the squadron
in the next hanger.
So, inspection was coming up and we had to do something to
these....sub-Marines
After work one night when I was walking back to the barracks {I
had to walk I was too drunk to drive} I passed by the OD's Jeep.
A flickered flame of thought entered my mind. I jumped in the
Jeep {The OD was in the e-club getting a drink at the office of
the SNCO in charge of the club] and headed to the bomb dump. All
the practice bombs new and old were here. I selected a 250 pound
green mother of all bombs. I couldn't get one any bigger cause
it wouldn't fit in the Jeep and besides I couldn't pick up
anything heavier. I know, I know......wimp. Now I've got the
bomb loaded and I head back to the barracks area. There is a
stream of Marines coming back from the e-club so, no problem
finding a servant Marine to help me get this mother in the
barracks.
K-Bay Barracks were all alike, two floors and squad bays. No
private rooms back then unless you were Staff NCO. With the help
of a fellow Marine or maybe it was two from my unit, we managed
to get the bomb on the top level, standing on it's fins, right
in the middle of the squad bay. What a pretty site. We were so
good, we didn't even wake the fire watch. We all slithered out
of there leaving the OD's Jeep somewhere in the barracks area.
Well, the next morning you would have thought I'd dropped the
bomb on Japan. We had three 6-by's loaded with practice bombs
and about 10 EOD people giving every squadron a lecture on the
hazards of handling practice bombs. I was NCOIC of my shop that
day and had other plans. Back then they didn't take names to see
who wasn't there.
If anyone ever asks, I deny all the above.
J.M. Clontz USMC {Ret}
29 years; Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Iraq
Snake Marine
In 1972, while with Mike 3/9 in Okinawa, I went to the NCO club
at Camp Schwab and witnessed a floor show I will never forget.
It was a mongoose-haboo (not sure of spelling) fight refereed by
a local. The extremely poisonous snake made numerous strikes at
the mongoose as the oversized rodent danced back and forth
trying to make the kill. The show was beginning to bore most of
the spectators until this Sgt staggers to the stage and grabs
the venomous snake and literally chews it in half. He staggers
back to his seat with the back half of the snake in one hand and
a Bud in the other. The M.P.'s were called and a bunch of us
Marines approached him to see if he had been bitten. He
staggered out of the NCO club and no one seems to know what
happened to him.
About a year later, while working as an operations chief (S-3)
for HQBn, 1stMarDiv, Camp Pendleton, I ran in to this Sgt again.
He was now a SSgt and was with Division S-3. We became pretty
good friends. His name is Larry Walker. I asked him about the
snake incident and he told me that he was so drunk that he
remembered nothing of it. He said that he remembered waking up
the next morning with a terrible hangover, a foul taste in his
mouth and 'these peculiar scales in his teeth. SSgt Walker was
an easy going Marine that one would never suspect him of such
behavior.
A couple of years later when I was a Nevada Highway Patrolman, I
had just returned home from my 2 weeks of USMC Reserve
obligation. I picked up my patrol car at the station and was
heading home when dispatch called me and gave me a number to
return a call to a Sgt Walker. I assumed it was an officer from
the Reno P.D. wanting to question me about a previous
accident/arrest.
When I got home I called the number given me. "Marine Corps
recruiting, Gunnery Sergeant Walker speakin." I couldn't
believe it. "Is this you Larry?" I asked. He actually spotted
me through the recruiting office window as I drove past in my
patrol car. Small world. When I went to the recruiter's office
to visit him, he had photographs of him chewing that snake in
two under a piece of plexi-glass on his desk. GySgt Walker told
me that he used the picture as a recruiting aid.
A couple of years later in 1977 while I was with a reserve unit
in Sacramento, I had the opportunity to bypass 2 h&llish weeks
of drill at 29 Palms and finagled orders to the Kansas City
Finance Center. While there I decided to search for the
whereabouts of Gy Walker on the old fish-file. I found him. He
was with an I & I unit in New Hampshire. I decided to pull a
joke on him. I called his unit and asked for Gy Larry Walker. A
LCpl paged Walker and he answered the phone. "Gy Walker? This
is Gy Foster from the Kansas City Finance Center and I am sorry
that I have some bad news for you. There has been an error on
your pay records and the Marine Corps has been paying you as an
E-8 with 2 dependents for the past 6 months. You owe us
approximately $2,147.92." He came unglued. "Are you sh&%%@#*
me?" "Gy, we can work out an allotment for you to repay the
finance center at your convenience. How would you like to set it
up?" After about 5 minutes of the snake Marine cursing me and
dam*ing the finance center, I couldn't hold back any longer. I
busted up laughing. After his blood pressure got back to normal
we had a great conversation and got caught up on what we had
been up to.
USMC 1966-1974
USMCR 1974-1979
JOHN D. FOSTER
My Favorite
My name is Eddie. I have been the Marines for two years and
right after I got home out of bootcamp I wanted to get my first
tattoo and I wanted it to be the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor. I
have since gotten three others and am very proud of every single
one but this is my favorite.
Long Haired AWOL
I cannot forget the great times too that I had while in the
Marine Corps. The "Run" platoon was a special platoon of Marines
stationed at Marine Bks Great Lake, IL. Back then we had the
cream of the crop sorta speak in collecting the AWOL's that had
been arrested and were housed in the local county/city jails.
Back then the AHJ ( Police ) would then notify the Gov't who in
turn would dispatch a team of two Marines to collect these AWOL
Marines and or sailors.
It appeared that the busiest state( back then ) for the 9th
Naval District was the that state of Ohio.
With so many cities that make up that state - we even used a
chartered bus several times over and just traveled the state
working city to city.
At one time we even spotted a hitch hiker on the freeway with a
very short haircut. I ordered the bus to stop (as the NCOIC) and
sure enough - he was AWOL - Marine.
The toughest collection was a Marine that had been AWOL for over
2 years. We need leg and waist chains for this long haired AWOL.
We also took pride that we didn't need to get rough with any of
these AWOL's. Having US Marines walk into the jail - calling
them to attention - often shook the jail and those going back
with us - They got the message. Most of us had been or just
returned from Vietnam.
Several today as told - went to complete a fine career in law
enforcement.
Even some of us were lucky enough to attend US Secret Service
school - POB and become a dept counterpart to help protect the
president when a movement came through your AHJ.
Semper Fi
Sgt. Gene T. Spanos
Lieutenant Retired 72/95
USMC 66/71
Marine Bks G-Lakes, IL ( 67') & ( 69/70')
I Swear I Say My SDI
Reading all of the sea stories in your last newsletter reminded
me of an incident I had in basic. I was with Platoon 1021 at
'Diego in 1988. We were all on our footlockers for the nightly
health and welfare inspection by our SDI. Since my last name
began with an "A", I was one of the first inspected. As our SDI
proceeded down the one side of the squadbay, my buddy next to me
whispers; "Check out McChesney", who was almost directly across
the squadbay from us. Now when we were issued our gear, we had
the choice of boxers or briefs, and McChesney had chosen boxers.
There he was standing at attention in all of his glory with his
entire package hanging out of his boxers. This breach of
uniform regulations, of course, soon passed up and down the
line, and as the SDI got closer and closer to McChesney, the
snickers and held-up laughter began. Of course our SDI thought
we were grab-as5ing and threatened unimaginable pain and
suffering if we didn't knock that sh!t off. Well, soon enough,
he got to McChesney and let out a "JESUS H. Christ MCCHESNEY,
TUCK that SH!T IN!" We couldn't hold it any longer, and I'm
sorry to say the entire platoon broke discipline and fell out
laughing. I don't know if I was the only one who saw it, but I
swear I saw my SDI barely succeeding in keeping a straight face.
We all ended up paying dearly for that, but it was the only time
during basic I recall laughing until graduation. Man am I glad
I chose briefs.
To all those who are serving, and who have ever served, this
Marine offers a hearty and hale SEMPER FI! Thank you Sgt. Grit
for this outstanding forum to tell our stories. We are truly a
Band of Brothers.
P.S. By the way, as any combat veteran will tell you, no "Doc"
of mine ever had to buy a drink when I was around, and as far as
I'm concerned they deserve as much or more respect as I would
give any of my fellow Marines.
Craig W. Anderson
LCpl. of Marines
"A" Co. Marine Barracks, Subic Bay '88-90
"L" Co. 3/9 1stMARDIV '90-92
All But One
Your readers' stories regarding the Marine Corps continue to
amuse and fascinate me. I can think of no other field of
endeavor which causes as deeply-felt camaraderie as the Marine
Corps.
My son, Midshipman Second Class USNR, at Maine Maritime Academy
is currently training toward a commission in the Navy under the
auspices of a hard-charging Gunny and a Mustang Major. They are
somewhat mystified that he's not Marine Option, but his
classroom abilities in Engineering require his talents
elsewhere in the Naval Service. However, he's watched Marines'
hailing rituals for some twenty-two years:
"Semper Fi."
"Do or Die."
"Bravo One-Four."
"VMF 231."
"Swing with the Wing?"
"In the rear with the beer and the gear."
"Hollywood?"
"H&ll, No, PI."
"Green side out."
"Roger that."
For a Marine, this exchange needs no translation. It's sort of
like the "Trail'st thou the puissant pike?"* exchange from
HenryV.
It seems that somewhere among 231 years of tradition, Marines
have picked up a "neanderthal" reputation. However, of five
Twentieth Century innovations in the art of war: amphibious
doctrine, close air support, vertical envelopment, combined
arms, and suppression of enemy air defenses, all but one were
initiated and perfected by the United States Marine Corps.
It seems to me that despite all our reverence for the "old
corps" the one constant amongst Marines is change for the
better. Admittedly, some bright ideas like the "Mighty Mite"
have since disappeared from the inventory, However, the title
"United States Marine" represents all the best from Article One
of the Code of Conduct.
Confusion to the enemy and success to the Marines.
K. Brown
French Actress
Sgt. Grit,
I also would like to know where Cpl. J.R Brown is today. Cpl.
Brown was my Junior Drill Instructor for plt.20 - 31 JAN.56 - 9
APRIL 56. Cpl. Brown had just completed Drill Instructor School
and was assigned to Company B, First Recruit Bn. It was my turn
in the company to pick-up the next plt. and Cpl. Brown along
with a Sgt. Wire were my junior drill instructors. After a few
weeks Sgt. Wire was assigned another plt. as there was a
shortage of drill instructors. He went to work with a new plt.
and Cpl. Brown and I had plt. 20 all by ourselves for the next
12 weeks.
Cpl. Brown was a native from Ohio been to Korea wounded in
action and got out of the Marine Corps after his first
enlistment. He tried civilian life but could not adapt so he
reenlisted in the Marine Corps and ended up at Parris Island as
a Drill Instructor. Cpl. Brown had difficult in calling cadence
for the plt. but in a few weeks he got the hang of it. Each D.I
has his own patent on how he calls cadence. Cpl. Brown and I
worked very hard with the plt. and the proudest we were was when
the Plt. was awarded the DEPOT HONOR PLT. for their hard work in
all four phases of competition.
Cpl. Brown was interviewed along with many other D.I`s at Parris
Island and he was selected and sent to Hollywood for 6 weeks to
make the movie D.I. Cpl. Brown married a French actress while in
Hollywood and brought her back to Parris Island however
Beaufort,S.C and Port Royal was not her cup of tea so she
returned to Hollywood.
Cpl. Brown upon returning from Hollywood was assigned to the
base Public Information Office as he was a celebrity for a
period of time. I lost track of him as I packed my seabag and
went to the 4th Marines in Hawaii.
J.R Baumgardner Maj. USMC Ret. (1951- 1977)
Drill Inst. 1954-1956--Jan-May 1966-
78 RPM
Sgt. Grit...
I was stationed at Camp Catlin, Territory of Hawaii, from Jan,
1954 to Jan. 1955. During that period, I was Sgt. of the Guard
for a few weeks. One of our duties was to raise and lower the
Colors. One Sunday, I and my Corporal were standing at the
flagpole, flag in hand, ready for the playing of the National
Anthem at 0800. The person in the guardshack had the phonograph
at the wrong speed, and played it at 78rpm instead of 33 1/3.
Needless to say, it was a short presentation. To my amazement,
there were no repercussions, possibly due to it being on a
Sunday (hangovers and all).
Donald C. Shope
Former Sgt., USMC
1289552 (1952-'55 )
Hollywood Games
Sgt Grit
I have read of many former Marines from the 1957 era mentioning
Sgt. Brown who appeared in the Movie "The DI".
Well I too had him for my Jr DI, for a short period of time. I
was a member of PLT 202 in July 1957. Sgt Brown was with us when
we were issued our 782 gear. I had just recently seen the movie
prior to enlisting and I quickly recognized that I had seen Sgt.
Brown before, but could not recall where.
After we finished drawing our gear we went to our barracks and
our Sr DI has us assemble around the table in the middle of the
barracks and told us who Sgt Brown was and admonished us
severely that if we every brought it up that the consequences
would be serve. Enough Said!
Sgt Brown had a very large amount of Hollywood Games that he
loved to play with us like: FLOOD!- AIR RAID!
We were not the least sadden when day he did not appear and we
heard he had been reassigned!
Jim Cocke
Plt 202
Unspeakable Things
I have been reading the Sgt. Grit news letter for a few
months and decided that I would send in one of my own unique
stories. I am a still active duty Marine on my first contract
entering my fourth and final year. This story is of my previous
duty station, Parris Island or PI as it is most commonly known
in the Corps. I am an 0121 Personnel Clerk and was stationed at
PI with Recruit Training Regiment (RTR), Support Battalion,
Recruit Processing Company, Recruit Administration Center. In
other words I worked in the building that unitilized the famous
yellow foot prints.
The way our admin shop was, was like any other admin
shop in the Marine Corps, lots of PFC's, LCpl's and Cpl's
working sun up to sun down in front of a computer screen. Our
shop was broken up into several sections, discharge, unit diary,
orders, legal, and SRB (Service Record Book). The main focus of
this story is the SRB section and their unofficial mascot.
However it was decided I will never know but the Mascot chose
was a small stuffed bear, like one you would find in a childs
christmas stocking. It was a weekly if not daily tradition to
"kidnap" this mascot, torture and mangle it. And of course the
whole section would up in arms over this demand to have it back
each time we took it. Whoever had taken would of course return
it but not before they had done unspeakable things to it. The
mangling this bear received ranged from being pierced by a few
hundred staples, wrapped in copper wire (that took them forever
to fix), impaled with straightened paper clips, and frozen solid
with a can of compressed air. After a while though, the SNCOIC
put a stop to that and business returned to normal.
LCpl King
SRB Clerk
I&I Staff
GSMCO 4thMaintBn 4thMLG
Rock Island, IL 61299
Ship Still Bobbed
Sgt. Grit,
Just finished reading some funny sea stories and wanted to
add one of my own! This story takes place during my second Med
cruise (on our way back to Beirut) at our first liberty port
which was Naples, Italy. My unit (Lima 3/8) was a Helicopter
Assault Unit so we were on an LPH. Anyway, before leaving
Morehead City we of course stowed our gear and grabbed a rack.
Since it was my second float I was smart enough to grab a top
rack. At the time I was thinking that I was a salty LCP, so
when one of our new "boots" grabbed a bottom rack and replied
that I was stupid for grabbing a top rack and having to climb up
4 racks to get to mine, I replied, "you'll find out why soon
enough boot". I forget what his exact reply was, but it was
something to the effect of, "my mother didn't raise no fool, I'm
taking one of these bottom racks". Well, we made our way
across the Atlantic without any incidents, but sure enough we
docked in Naples harbor as planned and everyone took off for the
liberty boats and a night of wild drinking. Since this was my
second cruise and I had already been to Naples probably 4 times
before, a few buddies and I went down to find a decent
restaurant and then returned for some good sleep with no duty
the next day. Well just after mid-night I guess, the liberty
boats started hauling all the drunken-*sses in and as expected
the harbor was not all that calm and even though we were
anchored the ship still bobbed slightly. Not sure if it was
that, or that these dumb-*sses just had too much to drink or a
combination of both, but anyway, 3 or 4 of the guys below me
laid in their rakes and after just a few minutes started barfing
over the side of their racks, each other and onto the deck all
over everyone's shower shoes (except mine which were wisely
stowed with me on my rack). I just laid back and covered my
face with a towel to mask the permeating odor while the poor
fire-watch and Cpl of the guard had to herd the offending turds
into the head to get them cleaned up. The funny part of the
story is that the smart-*ssed boot who questioned why I wanted a
top rack, quickly learned why as he spent the next hour cleaning
the barf of multiple drunks off of his gray, wool navy blanket,
uniform, towels and PT gear!
Semper Fi to all fellow Marines and God Bless all of you
fighting for our freedom! To our fellow Marines who have given
their bodies for our cause, and to the families of the Marines
who gave the ultimate sacrifice - a very heart-felt Thank You!
Mike Kunkel
CPL, 0331
81-85
EDDY Test
Are there any old Marines who took and passed the EDDY Test? I
did, in 1943, and was selected to attend radio/radar school at
Wright Junior College in Chicago, Grove City College in
Pennsylvania and NTTC, Ward Island, Corpus Christi Texas. After
the war, I worked for 42 years as an electronics engineer. I
hope to hear from someone who had the same experience.
John Hill, SGT. 43-46
Experienced The Antics
Referencing the two comments from the June 20th issue, I also
'experienced' the antics of Corporal (E-3) John R. Brown while a
recruit in Platoon 351, 1st RTB aboard Parris Island. My platoon
was in training during the 1 October to 31 December 1956
timeframe. I checked my recruit book before writing this and
confirmed that Brown's middle initial was, indeed, "R" not "G"
but other than that, the accounts are right on. Interestingly,
we have never been able to find John Brown after the movie was
distributed and he may have either followed his actress wife to
Europe or he may have passed away. The Drill Instructor's
Association cannot locate him anywhere. My senior D.I., then-Sgt
E-4 Eugene Alvarez is still in contact with the leading actress
(Jackie Loughery) as a close personal friend. Gene, a two-tour
D.I., is a retired PhD from the University of Georgia system who
has authored a number of superb historical books on Parris
Island. He is now a 75 year-young Marine living in Florida. It's
very special to still be in frequent contact with both my senior
D.I. and my senior recruiter from NE Philadelphia some 51 years
later.
Maybe not really "old Corps" but I did have a service number
(1647380) was issued an M-1 (#441380), had herringbone
utilities, boondockers, collar emblems on khakis and trops,
brown dress shoes, among other things.
Joe Featherston
Major, USMCR, Ret.
Arizona Platoon
I was also proud to be in Arizona Plt 3019. We started boot
camp on 07-07-67 and now forty years later 07-07-07 we celebrate
that glorious occasion on a special date. Our Drill Instructors
were Gunnery Sgt Green, Sgt Reynolds and Sgt Newman. We left
Phoenix and the temperature was in the 100's. We arrived at
MCRD San Diego and the temperature was around 60 degrees and to
many of us desert rats this was a welcome place to start our
careers as Marine Recruits.
We were a tight group and much was expected of us because we
were all from Arizona and were not allowed to forget that we
competed for ribbons in our learning of history, first aid,
drill and rifle range. There were others but I forget which
ones. Anyway at the end of the seventh week after the junk on
the bunk inspection we were led to believe that we had lost the
chance to become the honor platoon and having heard the loud
rejoicing of our sister platoon and the mad look of our DIs we
knew that we had not done enough. This lasted a couple of
seconds and then the word came that we had aced all the ribbons
and were the honor platoon. We were taken to the big grinder
and went through our close order drills and we were stopped in
front of alot of new platoons and displayed our proud and
colorful guidon. We graduated after eight weeks.
Alot of us were in the Nam by Dec and Jan and I know we had at
least eight KIAs that I found on the Arizona Viet Nam memorial
that is located on the grounds of the capitol building. How
many were wounded I have no idea.
I served with Delta Co 1st MP Bn FLC III MAF our TAOR was from
south of the air base runway to the east along Dogpatch. We
manned post 1 thru gate 12 which was the gate that led to the
road that went to the Freedom Hill PX Hill 327. We also had Hoa
Vang district and the Cam Le Bridge. That bridge was attacked
and taken over on the south side by the VC/NVA units on 23 Aug
68 and again on 29 Feb 69.
Thanks again for the great newsletter and keep up the good work.
Semper Fi Carry On.
Edward (Taco) Contreras
Sgt (Ret) 1967 - 1970
Arizona Platoon 3019 Honor Platoon.
The Only Difference
I would like to respond to Corporal Ross P. about Darryl Newton
and all the other comments made of this Marine. I served my
Corps and when I returned from overseas, I ran into my wife's
new love. Needless to say, I began drinking on the base, Camp
Pendleton California. That was my mistake. I eventually went out
and showed him what I learned after 10 years of service. What I
did was wrong. I did my time. The only difference between him
and I is, I never asked you or anyone else for any kind of
assistance. Like I said, I did my time. I am a Marine, 0311 and
proud of it. The only person that can take that away from me,
would be the Marine that gave it to me. My Drill Instructor. I
still spit shine my shoes and work boots. I still use my
military alignment. I am still squared away. Every Memorial Day,
4th of July, Veterans Day and Marine Corps Birthday I wave My
American Flag, My MIA-POW Flag and My Marine Corps Flag. Some of
us make mistake's in life. That's just the way life is. Do Not
Think You Have The Right To Call Anyone One Of Us An EX-MARINE.
S/SGT ALVAREZ
USMC
Cpl Charles Lindberg
Sgt Grit, we have lost a very good man and a great MARINE this
week in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis & St. Paul, Mn. I could
write volumes about this Marine but I won't at this time. I will
say that he was a modest man and he didn't get the recognition
he so richly deserved until recently for what he did on Iwo
Jima. Every time I heard him speak I got chills up and down my
body. A bronze bust of him will be included in the monument to
all veterans that is being built at Veterans Memorial Park in
Richfield Mn. It should be completed in July 2008. I'm sure he
won't be called " A Liar " at Heavens Gate and that there will
be many of his Marine buddies from Iwo Jima to welcome him to
his final resting place.
God bless you Cpl. Lindberg--Rest in peace.
Semper Fi, Robbie, PFC- 1472172
Whining Is Embarrassing
Sgt. Grit,
I want to chime on with my thoughts on the Marine who is
incarcerated. Most of us have made regrettable mistakes in our
lives. Obviously, this Marine is in prison because he made a
big mistake. That doesn't mean that he is no longer a Marine.
It means that he is a Marine that F***ed up. What I do not
respect is all of his whining about the circumstances he
created. We are Marines because we stepped up and paid the
price of becoming a Marine, with everything that entails. Being
a Marine is a lifetime commitment to excellence. We don't get
entitlements for being a Marine. We owe a debt to our nation
and to our fellow Marines because we earned the privilege. I
recommend that our incarcerated brother start acting like a
Marine, pay the consequences for his actions, and quit whining
about being unloved. Even in prison he should act like a Marine
instead of a convict. The whining is embarrassing.
Semper Fi,
Mark Lurtsema
1980-RIP
Amtrackers
"AAVP7A1 RAM/RS" I served on the USS Carter Hall with the
26th MEU (SOC) BLT 1/8 on a med float during 2003 during
Operation Enduring freedom as a part of JTF Liberia and JTF Horn
Of Africa. This was my baby and I still miss her everyday.
Amtrackers can be passionate about their vehicles. :)
Cpl. "Rommel"
Formerly 2nd AA Bn.
P.S.- Keep apricots away from it!
Sugar For His Coffee
Funny then, Funny now! 1959 Cherry Point GCA 38M, (Ground
Control Approach- Radar Air Traffic Control) never told a soul,
Capt Martin liked sugar for his coffee. Our crew was out of
sugar. Tore the place apart. There under the fridge was a bag
of sugar, on it was written, "Keep out Crew 2"! We then wrote,
"F... Y..! the Phantom strikes again!" , the Capt got his
sugar, remember the year, 1959, it was a long time ago! Capt
Robinson CO of the Unit never found out who!
Capt Robinson could be a jerk! We sent him a card, "As an
outsider, ... What do you think of the Human Race?" Still,
Crane, & Taylor were all in on this! 1959! Never got caught!
Yet! R Olson 1957-58-59
Don't Mess With Marines, Young Or Old
Check out this link about a 72 year old Marine. Once a Marine,
always a Marine.
Ric
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6712595
http://www.koco.com/news/13586105/detail.html
Without A Break
Thank you,
The patches I order arrived on Monday. My unit from Nam 5th comm
bn. and my unit from Desert Storm MWSS 273. They will finish up
my riding jacket for my bike.
I come from along line of Marines. My Dad Sgt Major William R.
Elder JR. enlisted in 1941 and retired in 1962. He was wounded
on Iwo Jima. He passed of natural causes in 1999. He enlisted my
half brother, his own stepson, Gysgt Harry W. Davenport while on
recruiting duty in 1955 he retired in 1976. Harry did three
tours in Nam trying to keep me out . I enlisted in 1969 he came
back I went over. We lost Harry to Agent Orange in 2006. I
retired in 1993. My nephew Jeff Richey finally got out in I
believe 1997 to become a US Marshell. So from 1941 without a
break in time someone in my family was in the Marines until
1997. 56 years I guess you would have to say we are a Marine
Corps family.
I still talk with some of my brothers I served with in Okie,
Desert Storm, and Beaufort. We are a close family once a Marine
Always a Marine. We all live from one end of the states to the
other but we still have that bond. Some still have that DI voice
and we all still like hearing about Marines. We remember good
times and the hard ones, The nicknames such as Cabinshoe, Chewy,
PaPa Smurf, Princess Palmer, and I better not leave out Old
Fart. Marines we are a special breed.
William R. Elder
Gysgt USMC
1969-1993
Never My Intention
Sgt. Grit,
It was never my intention to place something in the Sgt-Grit
Newsletter, as a direct result of my article in the June 7Th
edition, one reader launched a personal attack on me as an
individual. Therefore it's vital I be permitted to reply in a
civil and dignified manner. After wards I will not respond to
such comments or responses.
I'm deeply offended that a brother Marine would attack me
personally for simply bringing to light a situation that affects
countless incarcerated veterans. It would not have been
offensive to speak out on the issue, but to attack me personally
was not only wrong, it was demeaning and malicious, even more so
since Michael Gray does not know me or my situation.
My article in Sgt. Grit was not to solicit money. At no time
did I ask for money. I clearly stated what help we (myself and
our Veteran's Group) needed. That was information and
assistance to obtain the benefits we as Veteran's earned, I.E.
Medical, Disability, and Educational. Also help from
organizations in there areas. While the California Prison
system is vile, I did not complain about the conditions of my
confinement. There is other avenues for that, not Sgt. Grit.
Yes, I did commit a crime against humanity and brought discredit
upon myself. I'm "repaying" my debt to society as society deems
fit. That does not change the valid truth of being a veteran
and a Marine.
I am not a "villain trafficking in good men's Honor." I earned
the title of Marine, I served over 4 years of honorable service,
as one MgySgt. recently wrote me "not even death can change that
fact."
As a prisoner, jailbird, convict, or whatever adjective used, I
do agree the public should remain vigilant, there are prisoners
who spend hours, days, weeks, and months figuring how to scam
money from strangers. I however and not one of them. I never
asked for money to be sent to me or anyone. Only help from
veteran organizations to obtain legally for fruits of our
services. The fruits (benefits) we earned.
Mr. Gray wrote that if I was on active duty I would be in the
Brig. Let me remind Mr. Gray of General Lewis "Chesty" Puller.
He once visited the 5Th Marine Regiment, after his inspection he
said, "Now let's go to the brig and visit the men." Even Chesty
believed in giving men the chance to reform and change. He did
not abandon those men, those Marines in the brig. He visited
them, what an honor he gave those Marines. It was an act of
Great dignity and compassion.
My plea was a "set up" as Mr. Gray wrote to Sgt. Grit, there is
nothing to "set up" for. To obtain our benefits we must provide
proof, DD214, "Page 11"'s, medical records, ETC. being in prison
our applications go unanswered, misfiled, ETC. Veteran
organizations do not want to help us which most claim is their
objective, even the one's who offer up membership. There is no
"set up" to obtain anything that's one is rightfully and
dutifully entitled to.
Be mindful, the same incarcerated or jailed veterans will be
released back to society. Released to lead law abiding lives.
It's my wish and endeavor to be a participating citizen
contributing to the well being of my community and family.
Being afforded access to services for veterans, job training,
and employment assistance, education, and medical will only help
not only me but society at large.
Mr. Gray it's obvious you have a negative view of prisoners,
that is your right, but your do not have the right to
maliciously align anyone without having intimate knowledge of
that person, in that sir your are in error. My article was
submitted in good faith, with good intentions. I wanted this
opportunity to respond to clear the "air." State my purpose of
my article. If you have further comment on this issue you and
anyone else can write me directly. Do not waste space in Sgt.
Grit to write malicious and demeaning articles that are
unfounded. God Bless Us All.
Semper Fi
Darryl D.J. Newton
Single Act
The value of a single act:
Years ago I purchased several of the "Once a Marine, always a
Marine" coins to give to WW2 Marines that I was meeting through
attending WW2 Commemorative events . I had a co worker who
mentioned that her Grandfather had been a Marine in WW2 and she
was going back the upcoming weekend for his 84th Birthday. I
gave her one of the coins and told her to simply say when she
gave it to him: " With Thanks from a Doc ". When I saw her the
following Monday she told me she didn't know whether hug me or
hit me. She gave him the coin right as the Birthday party was
starting, just thinking she would get it out of the way before
she forgot to do it. She said that after giving him the coin and
saying what I told her to say that he got up an put the coin in
the middle of his fireplace mantel and that nothing anyone did ,
gave him or said equaled that gift in his eyes. He kept going
back and touching it and smiling, his back was a little
straighter and she spent all day Sunday hearing his stories
about what he did and saw, she had no idea he a had been an Iwo
Marine, wounded twice and that he was in active combat in the
Pacific to end of the war . She had just assumed since he hadn't
previously said much, that he hadn't taken an active part in the
War and never really thought to ask him about his experiences.
Semper Fi
HMC (FMF) Elheran Francis
USNR (Ret)
aka The Saint
Just Act Natural
In 1964 I was an E4 stationed in the Marine Training Detachment
at NAS Los Alamitos. This was a reserve Naval Air Station with a
several Marine Reserve squadrons, we were regulars there in a
training capacity. Good duty, though kind of off the beaten
path.
Over at the Education Office they had boxes of paperback books.
They were free for the taking. One day I found one on Yoga. The
blurb on the cover said it would improve my se.x life. That got
my attention and I thought I'd give it a try. Like at 24 my
se.x life needed improving? What would improve my se.x life was
some willing young ladies, not a book, but it was intriguing
nonetheless. In the I beginning I started practicing the
breathing exercises. I did this sitting on my bunk. Well this
didn't last too long as my buddies thought this was hilarious
and started razzing me endlessly. What to do? Aha! At the end of
the squad bay just outside the head were two very large closets.
On one side was where the buffers, wax, and toilet supplies were
kept. One the other, was a series of large strong shelves where
we stored our seabags. There was a little window just off the
top shelf with a streetlight outside providing a little light.
The top shelf was about eyeball level and there was room enough
to sit. This was my place, nice and quiet -- and – out of sight.
So after taps and lights out, I'd go down towards the head and
quietly slip into my little private space, climb up on the top
shelf, and practice my yoga breathing. And, so there I am one
night, breathing away in the dark. I hear the door open. As it
turns out it was a new arriving E5 coming down to stash his
seabag and gear. I was sitting, in the Lotus Position, in my
skivvies, on a shelf at about the height of his head. He
didn't see me in the dim light. I wasn't sure of what to do,
but impulsively I said, "Hi, you're new huh? Checking in?" He
must have come two feet off the deck.
Ok, Marine, I said to myself, just act natural.
He recovered, and I reached down to shake his hand. I introduced
myself, and all the while acting like this was the most normal
thing in the world. He said something about being whacked out
from traveling and badly needed some sleep – also something
about starting to hallucinate. He quietly left not asking any
questions.
In the chow hall at breakfast, several of my buddies said that
the new E5 was asking a lot of questions about me. I never
brought up the situation again and neither did he.
Cpl. Dick Sullivan 189605
Came In Low
Sgt. Grit,
I have written you before. I particularly enjoy the quotes in
the newsletter. I have a humorous anecdote regarding two Marines
on a duck hunt. Last year my son and his uncle, my brother-in-
law, both Marines, were duck hunting in the marsh along the
Texas coast. They were hunkered down behind cover that grows in
the mud of the marsh. My brother-in-law called in some ducks
and they buzzed the two hunters. One duck came in at low level
and my brother-in-law saw it flash behind the bush my son was
hiding behind and then he heard a loud "whack" and the duck did
not come out the other side. My brother-in-law says...."Charley,
you get that duck?" Charley says "Yeah". Rob says "How?" Charley
says "Buttstroke". Charley told me later that he looked at a
movement he caught out of the corner of his eye and it was the
duck flying straight at him and he had no time to shoulder his
shotgun. The duck swerved when he saw Charley and Charley just
automatically brought the shotgun into buttstroke position and
the duck flew into the stock....broke his neck. Once a
Marine......We have had many a chuckle over that one since last
season.
Don Chilton
SSgt. – AFRes 1961-1967
89 Combat Missions
Good Morning Sergeant!
This "old" (only 88) Marine is compelled to stop everything and
do something I have thought about since you began this wonderful
job you do for us.
I am a Mustang who was in Iceland when Pearl Harbor was bombed,
C Company 1st Aviation Engineer Battalion, 5th Marines
Provisional, 1st Marine Division. On December 8th I was in my
Company Office to apply for Flight Training. To shorten a long
story, we were transferred to Tent City, now called Legune, from
which I was transferred, "awaiting Orders, while my outfit
headed for the landing at Guadalcanal. After training I flew the
Corsair on 89 combat missions, and was awarded 2 DFC's and 5 Air
Medals.
My son, now a Doctor, is a Marine, as are his 3 sons.
All this is background for me to tell you how very much you are
adding to "our family" by the work you are doing. Please keep it
up, and may God continue to bless your efforts.
Faithfully, and Semper Fidelis!
The Rev'd. Wm. H. Magill
Priest of the Episcopal Church, retired.
Outstanding
This is a very heart warming video clip of a good woman.
One Of The Few
Sgt Grit,
I have attached a picture from our Armed Forces/Memorial Day
Parade. The Grand Marshall was Les Brown, a WWII Pacific
Guadalcanal Combat vet. The Marine Corps Recruiters picked him
up and drove him in the Parade in the new Hummer. PFC Brown is
wearing his uniform from 1944. He is one of the few that could
still fit in his uniform. The Marines from the Albany Detachment
were impressed and the CO and Sgt. Major came to greet him.
We take care of our own and we don't forget them either. Notice
in WWII, We only had Chevrons on one side of the uniform
Greg Bourlotos
Regrets
Growing up on a farm in the middle of Iowa I did not know what
opportunities were available to me, until I received an envelope
of information about the Marine Corps. I immediately knew that
becoming a Marine was what I was going to do. And I did just
that. However, being a farm boy from the middle of the
heartland, I had lived a sheltered life. I was not overwhelmed
by Boot Camp or my time on active duty, but I also did not
excel. I approached everything with caution. Regardless of
being meritoriously promoted twice, I never really understood
how things worked. Now after 10 years of being out, two things
have happened. One, I love the Marine Corps more and more, and
two, I regret that I did not serve as well as I know I could
have. Reading your letters always brings a smile to my face and
sometimes a tear to my eye. Reading about the great people that
have served and still do is often a reminder of what I could
have been and what I really was. For that I want to apologize
to the Marines I served with, to the Marines who came before me,
and to the Marines of today.
Cpl. Roose '92-'96
Not A Saint
Sgt. Grit
In response to the initial letter by Michael S. Gray concerning
Marine Darryl Newton and subsequent letters by R/S, JRS Ssgt
79-89 (whatever that alphabet soup means) and finally Ross P.
Corporal 88-89, I respectfully submit my rebuttal.
I joined the Marine Corps right out of high school in 1967, Did
my tour in Vietnam 68-69. When I returned to "The World" I was
honorably discharged as a Corporal (blood promotions)after
serving 1 year and 9 months. The Corps will always be with me as
It was in Vietnam. The term of "Leave No One Behind" is a phrase
we all should adhere to. I am not a saint nor do I feel that I
have tarnished the image of my Marine Corps. I, along with a
impressive number of Marines and Former Marines, have raised
some h&ll in our time and I would venture to say future Marines
will probably do the same. In my humble opinion, a Marine that
ends up in jail is not a disgrace but a Marine Brother who needs
some help. Maybe your career as a law enforcement officer has
jaded your memory of what it's like to be a Marine. Please try
pulling your head out of your sanctimonious a** and take a look
at the Real world. Marines are a team.
Semper Fi,
Chris DeSpain
3rd Mar Div, 3rd Tank Bat, Charlie Co
2nd Platoon, Tank Commander
I Corps, DMZ
Marine Recruiter Are Forbidden
How do I put this? For several years a small group of vets in my
area have been trying to help the recruiters in their effort to
do their job in regard to enlistment candidates who have some
minor trouble with the legal system that stops them from being
inducted. Most problems are just traffic tickets that are stuck
in the judicial system that can't be cleared up until they have
gone through miles of legal procedures.
Marine recruiters are forbidden from contacting government
officials to expedite tickets and such (I don't know if the army
has the same regulations as most of the work we do is with the
Marines). We never try to have the outcome changed (although
some prosecutors will cut an enlistee some slack) but just
enable the young person to ship on time. Some times the
enlistee will get a traffic ticket just days before his ship
date and it will cause havoc with their shipment!
What I'm asking is if there are any vets out there that would
help the recruiters with this type of problem. Remember, there
are quite a few of us out there that would have not turned out
alright if not for our time in the service.
It seems that the Marines have more spirited candidates that the
other services and have more to offer our youth in becoming a
real American!
Please, if you belong to a veteran organization or are just a
person who realizes the value of an education in growing up and
serving others, please contact your local recruiter to see if
you can help. They especially need people who are familiar with
politicians in the judicial system or are not shy about asking
for all possible speed in order for a young person to serve and
defend his/her country.
T Jordan, Sr.
Who Gave All
This is a tattoo acquired by a young just 18 year old just
before deployment to the Northern I Corps. of Vietnam in 1968,
obtained in California. It is the best thing this Grunt ever did
to honor the Corps. We served. We least not forget the ones we
lost, who gave all. Glad to have served, glad to have survived,
glad to keep the memory alive for all of those that served.
Gary Spence
Sempi Fi - 2/3 Marines Sept. 68 - Oct. 69
Crash Fire Rescue
I was in the USMC 13 years From Feb 81 to July 94.(SSGT)
MOS 7051 Crash Fire Rescue.
This is my design of a Fire Maltese Cross, with a Eagle Globe &
Anchor. My tattoo is to show the tine I spent as a firefighter
in the Marine Corp for 10 years.
Semper Fi
Rodney J. Dommer
He Came Up To Me
Sgt Grit,
Just a quick story from Viet Nam. I was there from Sept 1966 to
July 1967 and March 1968 to May 1968.
I couldn't believe it! Look at all that stuff! There was almost
anything you could possibly want, candy, clothes, soda, radios,
cameras, all as far as the eye could see, The Great PX at Da
Nang.
After being out the in bush for a few weeks (or was it months),
I was able to head south to the U.S.S. Repose at Cam Ranh Bay to
get a new set of glasses. At last, I would get to see Viet Nam.
I lost my glasses during the move to the DMZ from Chu Li. I
could just barely see anything without my glasses, good thing I
wasn't put on point. There were two things that almost kept me
out of the Marines. One, they found out my parents were married,
and two; I had to cheat on the eye exam. I had to take two steps
forward to read the big E on the eye chart. It's a good thing I
memorized it before I went in.
Anyway, I was wandering around the PX, just looking at things,
trying to decide what I could afford. I hadn't been paid for a
while and only had about three bucks MPC in what was left of my
pockets. I couldn't decide if I wanted a candy bar or a soda,
when an Army Officer stopped me. I can't remember what his rank
was, but it was defiantly much higher than mine, PFC, U.S.M.C.
This guy looked like he had just stepped out of a recruitment
poster for the army. Starched utilities with a crease so sharp
you could slice a finger off if you weren't careful. Boots so
shiny, you could use them as a mirror to shave. Aviators'
sunglasses that reflected your image back at you. He had every
hair in place, every crease was perfect, and not a thing was out
of place. I don't think this guy even sweated, you know, the
"perfect" leader.
He came up to me, looked me up and down and started reading me
the riot act. It seems that I didn't meet the standards of the
United States Armed Forces, Viet Nam according to his views. I
was a disgrace to the Marines and the United States. I should be
put up on charges for appearing the way I was out in public! He
was going to see that I went to jail for my crime! What was my
crime! Well, believe it or not, I had just come out of the bush,
a place where if you got one meal a day you were lucky. A place
where there weren't any laundries to make sure the crease on
your trousers was starched and perfect, in fact, I barely had
any trousers. Mine had rotted through enough that I had to sew
the inseam with communications wire to keep everything from
falling out (and I mean everything!). My boots were almost worn
out; I didn't have a utility shirt on, only a dirty T-shirt that
was so dirty that when it got wet and you wrung it out, the
water ran brown. I hadn't shaved in a couple of days, no bath
for a week or so, and my hair was getting a little long. Oh yes,
don't forget a flack jacket, helmet, and a loaded .45.
Well, it seems that I had a little bit of an attitude in those;
my younger days and I really didn't feel like taking a ration of
sh!t from this officer. While he was chewing my a$s, my hand
started to move, without any thought from me, towards my .45. I
had just lifted the flap of the holster when a hand grabbed my
wrist from behind. It was a Marine Officer of an even higher
rank that had been standing there listening to all of this. He
asked me what unit I was with, what I was doing there, and where
I was supposed to be. After I answered all of his questions, he
told me to go about my business. I gave a look that would make
the NVA think about going home at the Army Officer and left. As
I was walking away, I heard the Marine Officer reading the other
officer the riot act and telling him how lucky he was. I think I
would have blown that officer away if I hadn't been stopped.
After all, he was only Army!
Richard Constabl
USMC Lima 3/7
Semper Fi
Ex-Marine Kills 300-Pound Bear With Log
The Incident Is the Latest in a String of Bear Attacks
By D. Aileen Dodd
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 06/22/07
It's a feat of bravery worth boasting of on a T-shirt: Chris
Everhart clobbered a black bear to save his three sons.
"He killed a bear with his bare hands," bragged Everhart's
oldest boy, Jake.
Yes, his bare hands and a sturdy piece of firewood thrown just
right. And that's no campfire tale.
The male bonding trip to the Chattahoochee National Forest near
Helen on Father's Day weekend is one this family won't soon
forget. It was Everhart's first camping trip with his sons
outside the wilderness of their Norcross backyard.
Everhart had planned on spending some quiet time with his sons
—- Jake, 11, Kyle, 9, and Logan, 6. But their vacation at Low
Gap Creek campground was interrupted when a hungry 275-pound
female black bear showed up after dinner was served. Everhart's
heroism in the 30 seconds that followed thrust the unassuming
AT&T technician and former Marine into the national spotlight.
"I was doing what any parent would do," shrugged Everhart, a
rugged outdoorsman. "Heroes are firefighters jumping out of
burning buildings. I just got lucky."
The family was roasting marshmallows when their unexpected guest
arrived. It was about 9:30 p.m. Saturday. The fish weren't
biting that day, but the bears were out. The clanging of pots
and pans could be heard for miles as people tried to scare off
the animals.
So when the Everharts heard some rustling near their cooler they
jumped to their feet. The dad picked up some pots and pans to
bang. Everhart's most adventurous boy, Logan, 6, grabbed a large
shovel and charged at the animal.
"He was like a knight with a spear," said Jake.
The bear was trying to slip away with the cooler in her teeth.
"Once the bear saw Logan, he dropped the cooler and started
coming at Logan," Everhart said. "[The bear] was growling."
Everhart quickly ran to his truck and grabbed the first thing he
could get his hands on —- a hefty piece of firewood. He said his
pistol and his hunting knife were packed away.
He hurled the log and knocked the bear in the head. The hungry
heavyweight went down in one blow.
Everhart's boys stood frozen in their tracks as the animal fell.
"I'm a pistol shooter," Everhart said. "The hand-eye
coordination is all the same thing."
He rushed his boys inside his Jeep to take cover. But the bear
remained quiet.
Campers nearby ran to the scene. Department of Natural Resources
officials came soon after.
Investigators had come to the campgrounds to arrest another man
who tried to run down a bear with his car. Officials said he was
charged with a DUI.
The investigators told Chris Everhart that his bear was dead and
carted it away. Everhart and other campers had reported seeing a
bear and three cubs in the area.
Everhart was later issued a $75 ticket by the U.S. Forest
Service for failing to store his food properly "to prevent
access by wildlife."
DNR officials said bears generally shy away from people. But
because of the extended drought, bears have been more
aggressively searching for food.
Chris Everhart and his sons are planning another camping trip,
maybe to the same spot. However, Everhart says his ex-wife,
Tracy Everhart, whom the boys live with in Lawrenceville,
doesn't share their enthusiasm.
The youngsters now think their dad is braver than Luke
Skywalker. "That's all done with special effects," Jake said.
"He killed a bear with his bare hands. He's pretty tough."
Face New Challenges
My reply to Greg's post about wearing the utility uniform in
public, is to give the recruiters the benefit of the doubt.
Greg's frame of reference about wearing the utility uniform in
public is much like mine. It was forbidden, with few
exceptions.
Today's recruiters face new challenges, appealing to the 18 year
olds of today. If having a couple of PFC's wear utilities out
in town increase enlistments, I'm for it. Besides, the utility
uniform of today's Marines is one of the most practical war
fighting uniforms in our history. And those young PFC's earned
it like you did. Besides it's dam*ed sharp looking compared to
the Army's ACU uniform with the weird green grandmother's sofa
cover pattern, exacerbated by about a dozen Velcro patches
affixed to it, capped off with a beret.
The Gunny at the recruiting office is probably reliving
firefights in Fallujah in his mind while your giving him pi$$
calls! Let it rest Greg.
Carry On !
Dan W.
Sergeant
1979-1989
Lasered Off
Sgt Grit,
I'm forwarding a pic of my new tattoo. I used to have a bunch
but had them all lasered off. But I had been wanting the emblem
for some time. My last tour before I retired was at 8th & I and
I really liked the emblem that the Barracks used in the 8th & I
logo. So I used it as the design for my tattoo.
Semper Fi,
Pete Hoeft
Gunny, Retired
Benefit Of The Doubt
My reply to Greg's post about wearing the utility uniform in
public, is to give the recruiters the benefit of the doubt.
Greg's frame of reference about wearing the utility uniform in
public is much like mine. It was forbidden, with few
exceptions.
Today's recruiters face new challenges, appealing to the 18 year
olds of today. If having a couple of PFC's wear utilities out
in town increase enlistments, I'm for it. Besides, the utility
uniform of today's Marines is one of the most practical war
fighting uniforms in our history. And those young PFC's earned
it like you did. Besides it's dam*ed sharp looking compared to
the Army's ACU uniform with the weird green grandmother's sofa
cover pattern, exacerbated by about a dozen Velcro patches
affixed to it, capped off with a beret.
The Gunny at the recruiting office is probably reliving
firefights in Fallujah in his mind while your giving him pi$$
calls! Let it rest Greg.
Carry On !
Dan W.
Sergeant
1979-1989
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
To the Cpl presently not on active duty that saw Marines in
the mall with cammies on, MCO P1100.72C, Chapter 1, (MPPM)
section 1106 states that the daily uniform is prescribed by the
Commanding Officer of the R.S. If you google the order, it will
come up and you can read the intent yourself, which is to wear
blues or modified blues most of the time. I am sure the GySgt
knows what the MPPM is, it is the order all recruiters reference
to do their job. Marines wearing cammies in the mall? When I
was a recruiter from Sep 97-Sep 00, we only wore cammies or
modified cammies for certain displays or events, when prescribed
by the CO. But to just walk around, never, we wore Dress Blue
Delta's, and if we had assistants out of boot camp, they wore
Service Charlie's. To find the CO, just google it, he or she
will show up on the Recruiting Website for that area.
Jim Chambers Jr
Master Sergeant of Marines
Baghdad, Iraq
Famous Marines
Richard M. Daley
Mayor of Chicago. Marine reservist.
John Russell
Enlisted, was honor man at boot camp, went on to OCS. Caught
malaria on Guadalcanal as a 2nd Lt. Received medical discharge
from complications. Made 50 movies. Stared in "The Lawman", 1958-62.
Short Round
Just to let Sgt. Kramer, know, I served in 1954, and we
received khaki's, no pocket in rear, also tropicals, Ike
jackets, 6 inch rough boondockers, M1's packed in causmeline
and rough stocks. Sgt B Goodrow, 1495659, not the SS number
My favorite line in bootcamp
While doing mountain climbers:
DI: Why did you stop, puke?
Recruit: Sir, this recruit has reached the top, SIR!
DI: Good, now climb back down!
LCpl Cox, MWSS 371
I was a member of 3bn.g co.28th Marines 5th Marines div. on Iwo
when we got back hilo. and later heard that the war has ended
that night some Marine put a bangalor torpetor in the head at
the end of our tent you should have seen what our tents was
covered with the next morning.
TM
Sgt. Grit
In Jan 1963 MCRD-SD we re-dyed our boots, visor, buttons and
emblems from brown to black.
Plt.110 Cpl. Mowry 6511 (1963-1967)
On this 4th of July let's take some time to remember the many
fellow Marines who have paid the price.
I read every article in the Grit and it usually takes me about
an hour or so to come down to where I can breathe normally
again. This brotherhood will last forever and
Ever...Semper Fi.
L/Cpl M.R. Minutelli
G/3/2/2 55-59
Sgt. Grit.,
I just found your site and this is the first newsletter I've
received. I just wanna say thanks for doing this. It warms the
heart to see that Marines are still looked at with honor.
Cpl. Bryant
In reply to "The Visit". I also remember a trio of Marines
coming to my bedside in 1967 at the request of my brother. I had
taken a hit in my right knee, and was not expected to walk
again. They gave me that shot that is needed when all else
fails. Bless those Marine Brothers who do visit our wounded and
disabled.
Semper Fidelis
Happy Independence Day - God Bless America
Welcome Home Marine!
Semper Fi
Sgt Grit
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