Served from May 1961 – May 1965 (went through Parris Island MCRD) – when the DI’s were allowed to swear and smack you around a little if you needed it – and run your ass off – all night an all day if THEY so Chose – loved every minute of it. There was even the “Fat Man” Platoon – but I’m sure you can’t say that now – or it would hurt someone’s feelings of a “weight-challenged” individual. Now all the bleeding heart liberals in Congress – most of who are a bunch of pussywimpass non-vet Cowards have banned all such behavior on the part of DI’s who are trying to prepare Boys to be Men and to possibly go into combat if needed. Hey – if a Marine now encounters the enemy swearing at them or calling them names – are they supposed to report the incident to some State Side Military Lawyer and wait for permission to fire their weapon? Happy Horseshit we use to call it. Good luck to all who now go through the politically correct restrained “babysitting” MCRD experience.

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  1. Yeah, we PI Marines always did call the SD Marines “Hollywood Marines” and we did kid them about being issued sunglasses, but we were all the same-U.S. MARINES, and in combat in Vietnam we were all brothers. I had to go to MCRD San Diego for communications school and no i never got to see the recruits out there training up close, but I can understand how watching and hearing those planes taking off all day and night might get to you!!! Being able to resist the temptations to take the easy path in life is part of being a Marine, so SEMPER FI brothers!As for going thru boot camp in the 60’s was different than today (yes they really did smack us around and really use some foul language) it was needed and helped make us what we NEEDED TO BE to carry on the tradition and honor of being a UNITED STATES MARINES, the best fighters in the world.

    1. The smacking you around if needed. Was called thumping. You were cursed at from the time you fell in on the yellow foot prints.I went through MCRD in 1959 platoon 262. We lived in the huts. We were put throgh a lot of shit everyday. Our DI told us if you pay attention to what you are being taught. You have a chance to stay alive when the shit breaks loose.

  2. Totally agree with the above post! It’s all part of the “PC” crowds feminizing of the American male and the wimps in D.C. who never served in the Corps or any branch for that matter go along with it and the social engineering in our military willingly, because it’s the politically correct thing to do! I was a skinny 17 year old kid in 1960 who went through Parris Island MCRD and survived the so called brutal training back then, not turning 18 until two weeks prior to graduation. Long story made short ———I went on to serve at various duty stations (including Vietnam) for the next eight years and was very thankful for the so called “dehumanizing” training I (we) received back then. I went on to serve 31 years in law enforcement and proved to the world and the PC crowd in particular that we Marines back then could and did survive the “harsh and so called brutal training” without mommy and daddy being there to comfort us and give us a room with crayons,coloring books, and lemonade so we could escape the reality of the real world——as they do on our college campuses today. Makes you fear for the future of our country!!!

    1. I’m as proud to be a Marine as anyone but when we trash the younger generation we don’t show how tough we are, just how old. I started breaking up drunken brawls between my parents at age 10 or 11. Dad threatened me with a .38 during an argument (I was 17) and then shot at me when I took his car. He was pretty drunk. Stayed with a friend until his mom negotiated my brief return before leaving for college. I was a 4 sport high school athlete on good teams. (2 state finals in basketball and top 5 rating in football. Those Aug. football practices were as tough as anything in boot camp. I hit PI in Sept. 66 after my 3rd year of college. That last year I was living on my own, working a full time job during the day, taking college classes in the evening and partying until the wee hours of the morning so was in the worst shape of my life. I’ll never forget the 1st day trek across the island to 3rd Btl. with sea bag, 782 gear, bucket and everything I owned. Thought I was going to die. By the end of the week, I was back to my old self and found physical training to be a lot of fun. My favorite part was Pugil Sticks where I got to dish out a little punishment rather than just take it. Now at 71, I’m happy that there are young men still ready to fight for this country and leave me to sit around and tell sea stories.

  3. The pussification of this country is insane. Other countries sit back and joke about it. But when you have p.c. Libtards that won’t even sign up what do you expect? OOH RAHH. Thank you to all my brother’s.

  4. The United States Marine Corps is nothing if it cannot adapt, improvise, and overcome. Today’s recruits are prepared for the boot experience as poolies, and go through boot camp with Drill Instructors who work a system that MOTIVATES the recruits. They can proudly stand next to me, or any other Marine in history!

  5. DITTO to DI Swearing ALLOWED & the three posted comments. I didn’t serve My Country for a bunch of pus-ies to tell me how to be Politically Correct or what I can/can not carry. Guess we all remember Our DI’s; SSgt. Craddock, Sgt. Wilson, Cpl. Spencer ( ” The Pray For War Guy ), & The MONSTER; Sgt. Mullins.All week long on the Rifle Range I’d failed to qualify. The day before qualifying ( Thursday ), I failed again Upon returning to the Barracks, Sgt. Mullins ORDERED me into ” The Sweat Box “, cussed ” me, my dad, my mom, my dog, my family, & all he could. He drew back & hit me very hard. Having enough sense to fall down, knowing he’d not hit me again, I fell. He kept cussing me all he could & said if I failed to qualify @ least Sharp Shooter tomorrow I’d be back in there with him. Best recalled Sharp Shooter was @ the least 210 points. I MADE IT BY THAT SCORE. As the MARINE CORPS is not the SAME MARINE CORPS as Our Brothers before us served in, nor is it the same MARINE CORPS we served in to those serving today. My two main reasons for joining THE CORPS was I wanted to be ONE OF THE FEW, THE PROUD, THE MARINES & I knew in Combat we stand a much better chance of survival because of Our Training & OUR DI’s YELLING AT US. OoooRah & Semper Fidelis to ALL MARINES. ABIEZER DALE STEWART SARGENT U.S.M.C.& Vietnam Veteran.

  6. Total agree with previous post. I was in boot camp from January to April of 1968. The DI’s could out cuss any sailor. Getting “Thumped” was just part of the training regime. It made us men. I just had a grandson who went thru boot the last part of 2016 to the early part of 2017. The DI’s joked around with the recruits and it wasn’t physically much tougher than going through high school football training. It saddened me greatly. What has become of our beloved Corps. Marine Corps boot camp was the best thing that ever happened to this 18 yr old hippie punk that ever happened. I told my grandson Inwas glad he decided to become a Marine but was sorry he never got to experience what it was to be a hardcore leatherneck!

  7. Hollywood Marine, boot camp August 1961, plenty of swearing and thumping. However I visited MCRD last May, stayed on base and visited the grinder many early mornings. Didn’t hear any swearing but did witness a lot of aggressive leadership from the DI’s, don’t worry the Marine Corps is still turning out quality Marines.

  8. Right on Brother! I was at P.I. for the summer of 1962 Plt 238 2nd BN. 4 from my home town in ILL went in together. I was getting drafted into the Amry and hell no not me. I wanted the good old USMC. We all passed and were on our way. It was hard core training and we made it thru with maybe 35 Jarheads that we started with. Filled in with pickups to bring our numbers up to Plt size. None of us regretted anything that took place. They made us all into a well oiled fighting machine and we were all brothers for life. About 5 or 6 years ago I started looking for Plts 236, 237, 238 and 239 Marines from our L Company. I was able to find about 152 of them. About 35 of them had passed away. I put them all back together with emails and phone called. We have had 2 reunions back at the Island. Now many of our Comany have small group visits. I found 2 D.I.’s. One was Sgt A. E. Maddox(238) retired a Major and Corp Bobo (239)who also retired a officer and still kicking. I finished the Corps as a E 5 and so glad we had the good olds hard core training we did. It was the gloves off and bring it on. We all came out from kids to grown men plus better men for this type of training me got. I can never thank our D.I.’s enough For the tuff training we all got! Go back to the good old days. I am 77 and still believe I made the right call I did to join the Corps. Semper FI.

  9. No more fat bodies or skinnies they weeded out before arrival at P.I. or S.D. as poolies. Running physical training programs throughout the week for however long it takes for future Marine to pass the pft. Which is more than it was in 1969. There is a proficiency test also. But enough of comparing Apple’s and oranges I a 66 year old marine have a 27 year old Marine in my family,my son, he is every bit the Marine I am ,they now train in the martial arts ,he is a black belt. So old or new P.I.or S.D, Quantico we all wear the Eagle Globe and Anchor ( I hate to see EGA just a personal thing) we are all Marines (Dept of the Navy). It is a lifetime brotherhood,any Marine out there who for any reason needs a hand with anything call on any Marine and help will arrive. We are one fine tuned machine I will today fight beside today’s Marines (still an expert shot) and know they will have my 6 . Some day it may come to that so be ready. Semper Fi till !!!!!

  10. Your right…there is a lot of political correctness going on in our country, and has been for a while and the so called pussification of the American male is obvious and wide spread. Everyone seems to be a victim these days and God forbid we should offend someone with our language or our opinion. Surely this must have an effect on the training of young Marines. But… I don’t think it means they are any less prepared or motivated thin in my day. (1968) So the Drill Instructors can’t cuss or beat you ass like they used too. That is not the way of the world today. The Marine Corps adapts and overcomes. The Drill Instructors still teach the best of combat skills and discipline. They still teach respect and tradition. My Grandson graduated MCRD San Diego not long ago. Not only is he my Grandson, he is now my Brother. The Marines today are just as tough as ever and the country is just as safe as ever.

  11. I went through PI MCRD sept-dec 1961.graduating from Plt 383. I was set back due to an infected blister that morphed to blood poisoning that laid me up in sick bay for 2 weeks. They can handle a recruit missing I think up to 7 days, but past that you get set back. So I experienced 2 sets of DIs. When I read this post, and reflected on it, I realized that in both platoons I can’t recall any really creative foul language from the DIs, & only one slap to a recruit. It was obvious in my 2nd platoon, our Sr DI was religious, & the Sr DI calls the shots, so nary a foul word from the Jr DI.s In my 1st Platoon we thought our Sr DI was the devil incarnate, yet he wasn’t a screamer or swearer. In fact he was a man of few words, spoken quietly, but with a body English had would send a spike of fear down your spine. This doesn’t mean we were on a picnic. Someone told me that there was a sign in Officer Training in Quantico that said “beware the enlisted man, though illiterate, he’s crafty and sly, and bears watching at all times”. I’m assuming the DI’s in the platoons I was with were hands off and clean of verbiage for a reason, likely Battalion leadership. But every action has a counter action, so my DI’s were very creative about building recruit character without laying a finger on you. I left many many pools of sweat on the decks.

  12. SGT R KING 64-74 Being politically correct means you one of those who never wore the uniform of any branch of service. the MARINE CORPS fights what you fear, our men and woman support what that flag stands for , in some far off place our enemies will say things to you about your mother, father, brother, sister, your dog , your gold fish, your cat, and your wife , children ,and don’t forget your sweet pure girl friend back home, In the marine corps we were made tough, hard, strong, our DI’s used words some we never heard before, they were our guides ,our leaders our best friends they showed us what we were here for why we joined the best force in the world. there are and have been men and woman who have wore the uniform who have died for the rights you live under even being politically correct. but those same politically correct ass wipes will never stand the wall or hold a rifle to defend those rights that is what they have us do for them. if you have or your father or grand father ever served in a war and the enemies called them names , what do you think they did or said. if your feelings are hurt tough shit GROW A PAIR, in the Marines we were taught that there is only one color ,it is not black ,white, brown, yellow, red, or polkadot , it was MARINE CORPS GREEN . we were all the same, we were bothers and sisters, we were and always will be MARINES. THERE WAS NO POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS. being politically correct means weakness, fear ,cowards, these are the new age bullies. those who can’t or wont put on the uniform and stand the wall, pick up a rifle, walk the walk or defend the flag or country that we who have served or those who are serving are doing , if anything these ” people” should thank us for the rights that they have now and have had , and not tell us that their feelings are hurt because we said something they don’t like or don’t believe in, we have fought far too many war’s, been in far too many conflicts to be politically correct. this is not a fairy tale world we live in AMERICA IS NOT A JOKE, politically correct people make us a joke in the eyes of the world and give our enemies the win. but we who are MARINES will never allow us to fall, MARINES NEVER FAIL, ONCE A MARINE ALWAYS A MARINE.

  13. Boot camp at PISC we had “Elephant Platoons” for those over weight recruits. No Political Correctness back then.You should all read President Truman’s definition of Political Correctness, it’s so true.

  14. I agree with all you guys .3rd Blt PI 1959 summer to early fall no political correctness back in the day.But I am a better man today at 76 yrs.old Semper Fi Brothers CPL.Jerry

  15. We weren’t treated like fragile little cupcakes back then. The DI’s had a hard job to do, getting Marines out of whinny-assed civilians and ready to make the ultimate sacrifice if necessary. Our DI’s used the salty language and physical abuse that today’s recruits will never be subjected to. But it was necessary and it worked. We were scared shitless until graduation day. Ours was the first series at MCRD, PISC to go through the reduced training cycle (29 Jun – 2 Sep 1965). Semper Fi. GySgt USMC (Retd) ’65-’85.

  16. I had my draft papers in hand in 1964. Instead of the Army, I went in the Corps. Basic training at Parris Island. The best thing I ever did. Went to Lejune, had embassy duty, and a med cruise. Semper Fi. Dr Ray Ernst. Sgt USMC?

  17. Hit P.I. mid September 1967, Platoon 3046. Getting smacked around was the order of the day. Got my share but was lucky enough to be made platoon “scribe” due to my 2 years of college prior to enlisting. A number of the recruits went to “motivation platoon,” came back and were duly motivated. I was a “fat body” at 5’10 and 185 pounds, but after 2 weeks of all the salad and Jello I could eat I weighed in at 165 and was taken off the “fat body” designation. Went back to P.I. in February 2015 for my daughter’s cousin graduation and had an opportunity to speak with the commanding general the night before graduation. Then, at 67 years of age, couldn’t help but stand before her, heels locked, thumbs along side the seams of my jeans. Expressed my view that the lack of “corporal” punishment, “language” and “motivation” was detrimental to the Corps. Getting beat in boot camp once in awhile is what makes us different, it’s what gives us the comraderie such that when I say “Semper Fi” to another Marine wearing a Marine cover, it means something. Just my thoughts. C. J. Seyer, Corporal, USMC 1967-1969.

  18. Bring back the draft which will get the kids, good and bad off of the streets. I’m not bad mouthing our volunteer
    Millitary service members but if we are going to rebuild our defensive forces back,up they will have to come from somewhere. The sooner the better. Everyone should have to serve at least two years for the privilege of living in this country.

  19. I went into the Corps in July 1965 Platoon 220 ,had plenty of ass kicking and more bad language than I’ve heard I all the years since then. Senior drill was a marine six feet four and about 220 lbs. and when he slapped you, you knew it. Played many hours of belly crawling under bunks and the last one up knew it. I went to Nam and I knew then like I know now, I’m a Marine through and through. Thanks to the hard training at boot camp . At Paris Island.

  20. I went to boot camp in June of 1970. After about two weeks, I was sent to “Fat Man’s Farm’ and was there for about three weeks. If I hadn’t gone there, I would never have graduated and become a Marine. It was difficult but, it was the best thing to happen to me at that point. Too bad some of these guys nowadays get so offended, it’s not a big deal and it gets you into shape.

  21. I was a recruit at P I from April 61 to July 61 (plt 119). We were a few days into training when receive a new recruit who had just come out of the motivation platoon. His rack was across from mine and for the first few days I thought he was most bug eyed person I had ever seen. After a few days , however, his eyes gradually receded back to a normal level. I don’t know what got him sent to motivation but when he came out he was one highly motivated recruit and completed boot camp with us. My recollection is that Motivation platoon then was for 2 types of individuals. Those who thought they were tougher then everyone else and the other group which I will refer to as Mommy boys. The private I mention was a reservist and during our final week of training he was offered a promotion to PFC and choice of assignment if he would take a full 4 year enlistment. The language that was used by the D Is back then would certainly be considered “hurtful” in todays society but the end result it made us stronger individuals . With respect to the question did your D I ever hit you the only response that was acceptable was SIR THE PRIVATES D I NEVER HIT HIM SIR

  22. My twin brother and I joined the marines on Nov 1961 when we just turned 17 and one month. Of course our mother had to sign for us to inlist. We arrived at PI on the night of Nov 30 and was assigned to the Stomping Grounds 1st BN Bco Plt 194. We had 3 DIs one S/Sgt E-6 one Sgt-E5. One Sgt E-4 The Sgt E-4was a black six foot squared away marine DI. I think we were his first recruit Plt. my brother was a squad leader most of the time and I was a hatch man that would have to run out from the Plt and open up the squad bay doors before the Plt arrived to the old wooden Bks boy I can smell the wisk soap that we used to scrub the wooden decks I was also a house mouse and had to clean the duty hut,shine there boots and call for pvt camal, pvt Marlboro , pvt Lucky strike , pvt pallmall ect ect. I remember on night when the DI was waken one hour earlier because one of the fire watches set back the wrist watch so he didn’t have to stand his watch we’ll no one owed up so all 8 of us got our buts wiped with the black leather belt! To this day I don’t know who I took those 8 to 10 licks for. The rifle range was the worse! The D.I.s would call out from the duty hut (All My Sinners) and all the pvts who shoot below 190that day would line up and Sgt Knotts the black rubber hose would make its way down the line of pvts and hit each pvt on his head that did not fire 190 or above. If you fired 185 you got 5 knocks on your head pitty the pvt who only shot 180 ! Well my brother and I made PFC and graduate on Feb 20 1962.We were just kids back then and it was a different time but we still remember those long scary days and were better for it. Sgt Richard Mc Leod Nov 1961 to May 1966. SgtMaj Robert McLeod Ret Jan 1989

  23. L/CPL, Henry Young,2095xxx.. First “thumping” was during haircut… They continued until graduation. I can honestly say I never was abused even if it felt like it…. My tenure was Feb.64 (Rvn 65/66/69) Sept.69… My son is a USMC veteran (2012/16) our boot camps were totally different… Going back to MCRD for his graduation brought a tear to my eye… I don’t care how tough you think you are, going back to MCRD after 48 years (mcrdsd) is humbling…. Love you my brothers..Semper Fi..

  24. Went to boot camp in Feb ’66 to San Diego was in Platoon 257 for 3 weeks until I developed cellulitis in foot having never wore boots before those runs in them messed the foot up. I never saw anyone “thumped” or heard much swearing in that Platoon. After six days in sick bay and week or so in Casual Company (across from Motivation Platoon area) was picked up in Platoon 271 were DI White loved to “thump” on you, hang you from wall lockers while kidney punching you, cuss at you like you were a dog, and made repeat a phrase over and over again when he would say “Tell me about the road to Hell Ladies!” we would respond “Sir! the road to hell is made of bleached bones of Privates that did not plan ahead!” Don’t know if it bruised my brain forever, but the phase and thumping’s were in my mind the whole 26 years I served our Corps and still are still there today.

  25. Icompletly agree with Chuck L. I went to MCRD PI in march 1961 Ptl 117 1st BN. I learned a totally new vocabulary while I was there and was thumped numerous times. One thump required eight stitches after being hit over the head because the screw had come loose on my bayonet. I told the corpsman I hit my head on the upper bunk and let it go.Upon graduation the DI who thumped my head shook my hand and said he would go into combat with me anytime. The Marines made me a better person and I later served 22 years in Law Enforcment

  26. It took eleven years in til I took incoming fire, and at that moment in time I sent a quiet thank you to my Drill Instructors and appreciated how hard they trained us. I didn’t see any thumping in boot camp, heard it happened and could only figure you get what the hell you asked for, as far as cuss words, I was raised on them so hell just thought they were a part of the English language, part of my expression in life is “fu-k a bunch of bullshit”,what don’t kill you makes you stronger especially under fire, Thank You to all the Drill Instructors out there and the Recruiters for busting ass and finding those individuals and instilling in them the desire to serve as a U.S.Marine. OOH RAH

  27. In today’s Marine Corps the recruits have passed the toughest screening there has ever been. My son leaves for PI in August. 16 out of 20 who were screened on the same day were not qualified. Today they must show BEFORE they go to boot-camp that they can handle the training. As far as the “swearing” & “smacking” the recruits today don’t need it, they’re some of the best our Corps has ever seen. It amazes me how some “old timers” feel they have to belittle our Marines from today. These fine men & women have been at war for over 10 years, we are in good hands…..Semper Fi. Sean A. Torres Sr, 1986-1991 USMC

  28. I just retired from 41 years of civilian law enf.jobs, Deputy Sheriff, city police, undercover narc. (all in central Tx. in early 1971to 1982), Special Dep. U.S.Marshal( Fort Smith,Ark 1980),Kwajalein Fed. Police off.(Lt.)1981, Fed. Protect.serv. Police 1982-86, U.S. Customs Senior Inspector 1986-2012 (Nogales Az,Alcan,Ak. & Presidio,tx.,Washinton DC, Sultanate of Oman. Joined Marines July 1966,MCRD San Diego 1st bn. DI’s cussed us, thumped us, and ran us into the ground but changed us. We lost 3 recruits who could not take the verbal, and physical punishment but they did live. I later did 25 months in Nam ,67-69, as convoy security, MP NCO, and tank commander. I don’t know any modern Marines but I hope the quality has not gone down with the reduction in Physical training, too much PC,and too many women in the wrong MOS. Diversity does not mean improvement, I know that from working with the Feds! Boot camp changed me and made me better. The Marines trained me for war,but it helped me as a cop also. Semper Fi!

  29. I remember being called things I have never heard before. A spastic puke piece of s**t…Sgt Brewer’s favorite was “come here you f***ing a** bag” I guess maybe now days it’s “come here recruit”. Who knows?

  30. Funny you say that but last time i checked it must be the “bleeding heart conservatives” who don’t have the guts to serve or make the right laws.

  31. I arrived at PI on July/64 and it was hot and the DI’s were tough as nails. Everyone called 3BN Disneyland because of the new barracks. They were actually like brick ovens and we were the baking materials. Never regretted the tough training that we received because it made us men and more importantly, Marines. I went to Vietnam in 65 /66 as a heavy equipment mechanic when we weren’t on patrols or guard duty. NEVER regretted my decision to be a Marine. Left the Corp in 68 to go to college and get on with life. Semper Fi my brothers in arms. Once A Marine, Always A Marine….

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