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Investigations Find Hazing at Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego

Investigations Find Hazing at Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego

The Marine Corps’ recruit hazing scandal is not limited to the Corps’ East Coast training depot at Parris Island, South Carolina.

At least two drill instructors at Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego have been disciplined since 2014 for hazing recruits, according to redacted copies of the investigations, which Marine Corps Times obtained through the Freedom of Information Act.

One drill instructor at Marine Corps Recruit Depot San Diego received nonjudicial punishment in 2014 after he ordered his recruits into the shower, where he had them crowd together while naked until they were standing, “nuts to butts,” as one recruit told investigators.

Another drill instructor accused of choking recruits was found guilty of violating a lawful order at a July 2016 summary court martial and reduced in rank to corporal, according to the investigation.

The Marine Corps is not releasing either of the drill instructors’ names, said Capt. Matthew Finnerty, a spokesman for the San Diego recruit depot. The drill instructor involved with the shower incidents is still on active-duty but no longer trains recruits; while the drill instructor accused of assaulting recruits has been administratively separated from the Corps.

Both the San Diego and Parris Island recruit depots have made a series of institutional changes to prevent hazing, including doubling the number of officers who supervise recruit training and adding more drill instructors, Finnerty said.

But the incidents show how hard it is for recruits to identify hazing at boot camp and report drill instructors who cross the line.

After an investigation into the shower incidents was launched in April 2014, several recruits told investigators they supported their drill instructor.

“His treatment did not affect me as it is boot camp and the yelling and craziness is something that comes with it,” one recruit wrote on a questionnaire from the Marine Corps’ Criminal Investigative Division.

Another recruit wrote that he was not sure if being ordered into the shower rose to the level of hazing because he was not entirely sure what hazing is.

“I thought we were just supposed to get used to seeing other naked men,” the recruit wrote on the questionnaire.

But other recruits wrote that being forced to crowd together that closely while naked was unacceptable and the drill instructor should not be given a second chance to train recruits.

“It’s against human rights; it’s something that you don’t do,” one recruit told a CID investigator.

With the other case, investigators found that a drill instructor assaulted six recruits between June and July of 2015. One of the recruits told a CID investigator that the drill instructor, a sergeant, grabbed his throat and picked him up so that he had to stand on his toes to breathe, according to the investigation.

The recruit had a fear of being choked before the incident, the investigation says. Afterward, he became paranoid, “unfocused” and “depressed,” but he initially kept quiet about it because he felt something bad would happen or no one would believe him.

“I wasn’t reporting it at the time because I was scared and wanted to keep it all in and continue training,” the recruit told a CID investigator. “I really didn’t want to go to the Crucible because I was afraid of what would happen there if I didn’t do well.”

Five days after the incident, the recruit told another drill instructor that he had been choked and he was later sent to the hospital for a mental evaluation, the investigation says.

His mother filed a report with the recruit depot’s provost marshal’s office after a Navy ensign in the hospital told her: “The incident had been investigated either at or above the command level and that it had been unfounded,” she told a CID investigator.

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Brian Kleeves - April 15, 2020

Boot Camp, Apr 1968, Honor Plt 179,MCRDSD. The DI’s made a man out of me, then and now. They helped me survive VN as a Forward Air Controller with L3/5. Boot Camp training prepared me for having to expose myself to the enemy while directing in a medivac chopper, or adjusting air support hits. It prepared me mentally to train to jump out of planes and choppers with 2nd ANGLICO, Camp Lejeune, NC. In civilian life, I was always promoted fast, because of my leadership skills learned in the Corps. My last job, with the USPS for 34 years, I worked my way up from the bottom, to Postmaster. I contribute my success to my DI’s and their dedication to making me a Marine. Thankful for every method of training administered to me. Thank you, SSGT Contreras, Sgt Flores, and Sgt White. Semper Fi.

DMcKee Cpl - April 15, 2020

In reply to Jim Barber.
Good book on life in the Corps…I bought it thru kindle a while back and some stories bring back recollection to the memory housing group. Semper Fi Marines

Duane Peterson - April 15, 2020

I went to MCRDSD in 1975, June 20th, I think it was. My brother had gone a couple of years before me and he said everyone in his platoon got thumped. I got thumped too, the first good one was on the morning we left for the Rifle Range, the last day of 1st phase or the first day of 2nd phase (however you want to count it). I never thought of any of the unpleasant incidents as “hazing” just part of training. Now of course looking back, something to laugh and joke about with other Marines. I suppose its a good thing these new hazing rules aren’t retroactive, otherwise all of us would be getting our very own courts-martial. Even those that were career snuffies. Things like atomic situps, e-tool qual, the ever popular photo of a sleeping Marine with mayo put on his face and etc… as far as former NCO’s: just doing our jobs could be interpreted as hazing.

3Tripper - April 15, 2020

DI/PI 68-70, Hazing is a violation of the DI’s SOP. I hazed recruits not to hurt, but to motivate. I had 11 platoons in my 2 year tour, it was a fast and furious tour of duty, which I consider one of the best in my 30 yr career. The Marine Corps puts out an individual far more trained than the other services, if we want to continue to do so, a small amount of hazing for motivational purposes will continue.

BV Schultz, 70-73 - April 15, 2020

Reading the story made me sad. As so many of the previous comments said; the DI’s treatment showed us what discipline and orders meant. It served to show us that we could handle more mental and physical stress than we ever imagined. Did I “enjoy” getting thumped, banged around, pt’d until we puked, stuffed into a shower buck naked with 54 other dudes; of course not. It did however show me that it wasn’t going to kill me, it ingrained the mental toughness that was essential to being a good Marine, and the drive and initiative necessary for a 30 yr career in law enforcement.

Sgt Robert L Sisson - April 15, 2020

In reply to Jim Flanagan USMCR.
I arrived at Paris Island July 1968. Our DI’s were really tough but at that time in my life that is EXACTLY what I needed. Had my ass kicked more times than I can remember. Before I left for PI my girl friends cousin told me YOU MIGHT THINK YOU ARE A BAD ASS wait till you get to PI. He had just got out of the CORP. He was so right. They TAUGHT ME how to work as a team that not one person was more important than another. About 1/2 through boot camp my DAD came to visit me. He was in the CORP during WWII. I told him about the one DI beating the hell out of me and he laughed his ass off. He told me they had to duck walk around this huge field till they puked their guts out. If the DI’s were not they way they were what would we talk about. I remember being in VIETNAM we all talked about who had the craziest DI’s. This might sound like Bull Crap but my Father and the 2nd Battalion Co were in the same unit in WWII. They never knew each other but I think that was the only reason they let him see me.

gary kenefick - April 15, 2020

Plt. 325, 3rd Battalion, P,I,, Feb, 1968. Boot camp was tough but those who finished became Marines. I don’t want to be next to someone who doesn’t like something, wants to report to the CO that the enemy is trying to hurt him because they are shooting at him, which, he feels, is a violation of his human rights. Instead, I’d rather he pick up and fire his weapon. Fight like a Devil Dog! Semper Fi.

Greg Furey - April 15, 2020

None of my DIs in 1974 ever hit any of us. However, one was very good at biting your ear while screaming at you at the same time. The most effective DI I had did almost nothing physical at all. GySgt Knight was the funniest man I ever met. He would walk up and down the ranks cracking joke after joke. Whoever laughed first got sent to the pit. We all developed inner discipline beyond mortal abilities! Cpl Furey, MCRD, 1974. 0311 E2/7. Semper Fi.

Sgt Ted K. Shimono - April 15, 2020

like I said in past articles, if you can’t take the punishment and heat of our Marine boot camp, get an Administrative discharge, and quit wasting the Marine Corps money and the DI’s time. I was the only Japanese American in MCRDSD boot camp, got the crap beat out of me on occasions, but became a better Marine leader during the next 10 years and used the Marine leadership training for the next 27 years as an aerospace manager of many departments that I took over because of my ability to perform the job better, get things in order, provide department discipline/leadership, increased performance from below average to superior levels in 30 days, etc. Semper Fi to all Marines that walked the same trails that I walked in the Corps and into civilian life. I have met many former Marines in civilian life that said the Corps made them what they are today, “The best in their field of endeavors”.

harold allie - April 15, 2020

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