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The Old Corps

The toilet was “The Head”
A drinking fountain was “The Scuttlebut”
A door was not slightly open it was “Ajar”
The uniform for going on a hike was “Spats, Gats and Tin Hats”

There were khakis, greens, and blues Some of you (not all) won’t recall a great portion of this but if you do, so be it. If you don’t, you missed a good time! The following is a page found in the book “Green Side Out” by Major H.G.Duncan, USMC (Ret) and Captain W.T. Moore, Jr., USMC (Ret).

You kept your rifle in the barracks.
Your 782 gear did not wear out.
Mess halls were mess halls (NOT dining facilities).
No vandalism wrecked the barracks.
Everyone was a Marine and his ethnic background was unimportant.
We had heroes.
Chaplains didn’t teach leadership to the experts.
Getting high meant getting drunk.
Beer was 25 cents at the slop chute.
Skivvies had tie-ties.
We starched our khakis and looked like h-ll after sitting down the first time.
We wore the short green jacket with the winter uniform.
We wore Sam Browne belts and sharpened one edge of the buckle for the bad fights.
We kept our packs made up and hanging on the edge of the rack.
We spit-shined shoes.
Brownbaggers’ first concern was the Marine Corps.
Generals cussed.
Generals paid more attention to the Marine Corps than to politics.
UA meant being a few minutes late from a great liberty, and only happened once per career.
Brigs were truly “correctional” facilities.
Sergeants were gods.
The tips of the index and middle fingers of one hand were constantly black from Kiwi shoe polish.
We scrubbed the wooden decks of the barracks with creosote.
We had wooden barracks.
Privates made less than $100.00 a month.
Privates always had money.
You weren’t transported to war by Trans World or Pan American airlines.
Barracks violence was a fight between two buddies who were buddies when it was over.
Larceny was a civilian crime.
Every trooper had all his gear.
Marines had more uniforms than civilian clothes.
Country and western music did not start race riots in the clubs.
We had no race riots because we had no recognition of races.
Marine Corps birthdays were celebrated on 10 November no matter what day of the week it may have been (except Sunday).
Support units supported.
The supply tail did not wag the maintenance dog.
The 734 form was the only supply document.
You did your own laundry, including ironing.
You aired bedding.
Daily police of outside areas was held although they were always clean.
Field stripping of cigarette butts was required.
Everyone helped at field day.
A tour as Duty NCO was an honor.
Everyone got up a reveille.
We had bugle calls.
Movies were free.
PX items were bargains.
Parking was the least of problems.
Troops couldn’t afford cars.
You weren’t married unless you could afford it.
Courts-martial orders were read in battalion formations.
We had the “Rocks and Shoals.”
Courts-martial were a rarity.
Marines receiving BCDs were drummed out the gate.
NCOs and officers were not required to be psychologists.
The mission was the most important thing.
Marines could shoot.
Marines had a decent rifle.
The BAR was the mainstay of the fire team.
Machine gunnery was an art.
Maggie’s drawers meant a miss and was considered demeaning as h-ll to the dignity of the shooter.
Carbide lamps blackened sights.
We wore leggings.
We wore herringbone utilities.
We had machine gun carts.
We mixed target paste in the butts.
We had to take and pass promotion tests.
We really had equal opportunity.
Sickbays gave APCs for all ailments.
We had short-arm inspections.
The flame tank was in the arsenal of weapons.
We had unit parties overseas with warm beer and no drugs.
Marines got haircuts.
Non-judicial punishment was non-judicial.
The squad bay rich guy was the only one with a radio.
If a Marine couldn’t make it on a hike, his buddies carried his gear and helped him stumble along so that he wouldn’t have to fall out.
The base legal section was one or two clerks and a lawyer.
We had oval dog tags.
Marines wore dog tags all the time.
We spit-shined shoes and BRUSH-shined boots.
We wore boondockers.
We starched field scarves.
We worked a five and one-half day week.
Everyone attended unit parties.
In the field we used straddle trenches instead of “Porta-Potties.”
Hitch-hiking was an offense.
We used Morse Code for difficult transmissions.
The oil burning tent stove was the center of social activity in the tent.
We had unit mail call.
We carried swagger sticks.
We had Chesty Puller.
Greater privileges for NCOs were not a “right”.
EM Clubs were where you felt at home… and safe.
We sailed on troopships.
We rode troop trains.
Sentries had some authority.
Warrant Officers were not in their teens.
Mess hall “Southern cooking” was not called “soul food.”
Marines went to chapel on Sundays.
Weekend liberty to a distant place was a rarity.
The color of a Marine’s skin was of no consequence.
The Marine Corps was a big team made up of thousands of little teams.
We landed in LCVPs and always got wet.
We debarked from ship by means of nets over the side.
We had parades.
We had pride.
We had Esprit de Corps.
Field scarves (neckties) were made of the same material as shirts, and had the same consistencies as a wet noodle. There was no tie clasp to keep it from flapping in the breeze.
Shirts were tailored and spit-shined.
Khakis were heavily starched, and you had to run your arm through the pants leg to open them up. Shirt pockets could not be opened and you carried cigarettes in your socks.
There were no back pockets in uniform trousers.
Buttons on your “Blues” were really brass, and you shined them using jewelers rouge and a button shield.
Piss-cutters had a single dip in the rear.

Semper Fi!

“Saepius Exertus, Semper Fidelis, Frater Infinitas”
“Often Tested, Always Faithful, Brothers Forever”
United States Marines

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Comments

MSgt Edd Prothro, USMC Ret. 1964-1984 - May 20, 2020

I remember that…most of them, but then I also remember as they changed over the years. You have to admit that you can get to the beach a helluvah lot quicker and more precisely aboard an Osprey or an air cushioned landing craft. Neither of which have I experienced, but it has to beat the hellouta going over the side, dangling on a cargo net, while the mike boat bobs up and down in rough seas. Or, as technology supposedly improved and you went off the front of an LST in an amtrac to sink and hope that you will soon surface and not get breached in surf. Semper Fi!!!

Sgt Robert L Sisson - May 20, 2020

I remember going over the side and making beach assault at Vieques We had one Sgt who flipped over and got caught with his leg between the net and the side of the boat and we had full packs and rifle. Thank God the were 2 huge guys that got him upright. Then we landed on a sand bar got stuck 100 yards off land. The Navy guy was trying to explain explain to the Capt what was going on. The Capt kept yelling put down the ramp. Finally he put down the ramp the Capt yelled charge and away we went the Capt stepped off the sand bar and he went under pack and all. A few guys stripped off their packs and went in after him. Finally we had to be pulled of the sand bar.

Roger Pelkey - May 20, 2020

I remember all those words well. I slept in a bunk between the Chucks and the Splibs because I was a “Half-Breed” Mi’Kmaq Indian . Oh them Broad-Assed-Marines. Pelkey,Roger R . 195- – – – PI April,26,1961

‘Stoney’ Brook - May 20, 2020

I’ve been collecting USMC uniforms and 782 gear for over 35 years. There’s just a few points about the uniforms mentioned above:

1. The Marine Corps didn’t initially specify the ‘Sam Browne’ belt (That’s of British origin, gaining favor during the Great War).

It was correctly called the “Officer’s Belt, Model 1935” until after WWII / Korea when the term Sam Browne began to appear in the Marine Officer’s Guide.

For enlisted swine, the leather “Service Belt” was worn with greens. The color was Cordovan brown. The enlisted leather version was discontinued late 1942 due to leather shortages (and use as a weapon with sharpened buckle) but Old Salts wore them right up through the end of the war. The cloth version – used today with green blouse – was adopted in 1942.

2. The Corps didn’t have ‘Ike’ jackets because Ike (Eisenhower) was a Doggie. It was either a Battle Jacket or a Vandegrift jacket, based on the Brit’s jackets of similar design, and adopted by First Mar Div while in Australia after Guadalcanal campaign. A modified version was still being issued (according to sea stories) as late as 1963-64. I was issued one in Boot Camp (MCRD SD) in late 1961.

Sgt Moe - May 20, 2020

Wayne L. were you their when the Danang Bomb Dump blew for thirty six hours right near hill 327. On April 25th I believe 69. I was stationed on the other side of Dog Patch when it blew. Maybe 1/2 mile away.

Sgt Moe - May 20, 2020

Thanks for the Welcome Home. USMC 67-71 Vietnam 68-69. I did get to see Bob Hope December of 68 in Danang with a few thousand Veterans. I was stationed in Danang in the lst MAW.

Wayne L - May 20, 2020

1967-1971. # 1090 San Diego
1968-1969 Viet Nam. Flew over and came back on a ship. Started out on hill 327 and finished in the valley at hill 55.
Did go to monkey mountain once driving a jeep. Going up was easy but going down was something else. Had the brakes smoking real bad but we made it, thank God! Finished out at Cherry Point, N.C.

Kapena - May 20, 2020

Get very emotional and filled with pride reading above remarks. So very honored to be part this exclusive fraternity. The brotherhood of Marines. God Bkess you all!

Henry young - May 20, 2020

Never had a set of Blues, or Ike Jacket, nor brown shoes. Did go over the side into Landing Craft, ate in Mess Halls, and spit shined shoes sitting on a bucket. Marine Corps 964/1969. RVN 65/66/69. 0311/2311. Semper Fi

Laverne Hughes - May 20, 2020

Vern Hughes Sgt: 50-54, Amphib. Recon.
BAR man. Pusan to the punch bowl.
Rubber Boaters! First Chopper Assault,
Hill 884 in combat history!!!!
The shoes were cordovan in color not the old brown. The green blouse was a copy of
The “ Ike “ Army jacket of WWll.
Used Broken Coke bottles to cut away the
Hair on rough out boondockers.
Snapped too and by your leave passing all brass!!! Borrowed a chopper with Maj. Kerby Smith for recon. But came back with 8 little Korean Deer. Had company
Venison for two days. Troop ships going & comming, + Veiques over the side!!
Now 89 years and still formed in fire, upright, head up, chin in, shoulders back
And awaiting the Commanding Generals
Travel orders. GODS BLESSINGS TO ALL
MARINES EVERYWHERE and as we learned from the Subs klaxon horn:
Ooooooggghaaaaa. Or as we now say
Oooorrraaa. Semper Fi

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